[MD] The SOM-MOQ relationship.

skutvik at online.no skutvik at online.no
Tue Dec 13 00:54:32 PST 2005


Hi Ian

On 12 Dec. you spoke thus:

> Bo, I see Ant has picked up the thread, but ...

Yes without addressing the bone of contention which is how SOM 
is to be tucked in under the MOQ. If the "original" way:

    "In the MOQ, all organisms are objective. They exist in 
    the material world. All societies are subjective. They exist 
    in the mental world. The distinction is very sharp. For 
    example, the President of the US" is a social pattern. No 
    objective scientific instrument can distinguish a President 
    of the US from anyone else."  

.... is accepted as valid stuff I can't for the life of me understand 
where the MOQ differs from SOM. 

> Where did you get the "let's keep quiet please" idea from anything I
> said ?

A general sense of unease when "unassimilated" things are aired.  

> As for enlightenment, you really do miss the point. The lesson is to
> recognise the child-like simplicity, not to learn something more
> intellectual, in order to unederstand.

I could not agree more, but intellect clings to the MOQ. Please 
continue as an intellectual pattern, don't leave home! And so 
many self-declared moqists work overtime in intellect's service.    

Bo





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