[MD] Dawkins supports the MOQ

[David M]

here are some of the problems with the questions science asks:

http://www.resurgence.org/essaycompetition/green2004.htm

DM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ian glendinning" <psybertron at gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Dawkins supports the MOQ


> Platt,
> When you ask
> "Why do the fittest survive? What's the motive?"
> 
> You miss the fact that you've answered it already, using words like
> best and better.
> I have long likened "fitness" in the evolutionary sense to "quality"
> in the MoQ sense. As you point out Pirsig had already effectively
> answered the question.
> 
> Dawkins doesn't miss the question of motive. As you'd expect he sees
> no higher intelligent game plan, he simply sees the quality motive in
> each and every interaction. He just doesn't have the word quality in
> his vocabulary, the same MoQ-way you and I do.
> 
> You do a disservice to intelligent scientists everywhere by even
> suggesting they might not even be curious to ask "why". A fatuous
> allegation. You just find a different kind of answer to the sort
> you're looking for. That's your problem, not his.
> 
> And lest there be any doubt, Dawkins I cannot stand. He's the worst
> news for the cause of neo-Darwinism, because whilst sticking to his
> objective scientific views, he fails to even acknowledge anything
> remotely spiritual, despite orginating the idea of memes. Gimme
> Dennett, Pinker, Blackmore or Jones anyday. I wrote an essay highly
> critical of Dawkins some years ago.
> http://www.psybertron.org/Dawkins%20Hyper-Rationalism.html
> 
> Glad you spotted the fittest / best / MoQ / Quality parallel in
> evolution though.
> Hope for me and you yet.
> That "BeliefNet" site has some good stuff doesn't it. Scott brought us
> that Peyote reference from there too.
> Ian
> 
>>> On 12/14/05, Platt Holden <pholden at sc.rr.com> wrote:
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