[MD] Evolution of consciousness

[David M]

Hi SA

SA:This kind of inquiry/statement may come at a
defining angle as to what the difference between
social and intellectual levels are, wouldn't it? 
Where is the intellectual creativity coming from.  Is
it truly beliefs that DQ comes from, and then the form
it takes is either intellectually accepted or socially
accepted.  We may be persuaded by the reasoning of a
philosopher or persuaded by the celebrity impulse that
activities a crowd to act spontaneously in what may be
right or wrong for intellect to either decide before
the action takes place, or after.  Preventative
measures are always helpful on intellect part, yet,
the day after is a better late than never answer.  As
of now, I am not sure.  Belief might be the key
concept here to define what is religious or not.  This
kind of discussion might bring intellect into
religion.  Does it come down to belief?  If so, where
does belief end and no belief is necessary?  Science
has assumptions.  Does this bring religion into the
all-encompassing position that religious/spiritual
advocates - advocate?

DM: I think the levels here are really between a myth
and custom driven society to one that has developed
the power to produce/enable individuals and utilise 
this new level of DQ emergence. The emergence
of the individual in society and objective thinking go
together. Old style religion is linked to social conformity
and relating to nature as dangerous and creating order,
science is related to reason, individualism, and getting 
control over nature. Nature however cannot be fully
controlled or undertood only in terms of order.
Hence there is a understanding of existence on the other
side of both the dominance of religion and science
over our thought. Of course Eastern religion tried
more to relate to nature by submisssion, surrender, adaptation,
tao, rather than fear leading to control being sought,
hence west took to science more than east.

DM