[MD] French ingredient in the soup of sentiments

[Heather Perella]

Hello Platt, Margaret, Arlo, Craig and others,

     Platt said:  "Result: social cities are dull
places -- except when 
punctuated by rioters demanding their "rights."

     What I am about to say might be an SOM.  This
demanding by the rioters for their rights sounds like
they want individual rights.  They are in a crowd
speaking a general voice so the rights are social
rights, too.  Yet, it took individuals to decide
together to make this a social decision.  Now what
kind of static filter I am looking through I don't
know when I make this kind of comment.  So based on
this comment I will switch over to what Craig quoted: 

     "The place to improve the world is first in one’s
own heart and head and hands, and then work outward
from there."
     
    First of all is that something the French are
doing or is the improvement jumping to the social
level and skipping Arlo's point about dialogue quoted
next:

     Arlo said:  "The answer is the pervasive,
mercantilistic dialogue, driven by party-ideologues,
who give us only two options, one which fails to
recognize the value of "identification" (as in ZMM)
between labor and craft, which sees (and values)
people only through a lens of "profit", and the other
which fails to recognize the value of a free market
where success and failure are not guaranteed but must
be pursued with focused, motivated effort."

     By what I understand, Arlo, a world view without
a metaphysics to guide the unrest into any new dynamic
turn of events in the eyes of any free market then
one's own world view will settle right back into the
basic contrasting system of values that will lead
right back into an unresolved, unrestful rioters type
event in society, again.  The French are focused on
the finger of the giant, not the whole giant.
     How do we have any actions occurring from this
dialogue?  Well, I believe that even before any
dialogue begins we need that space between the words. 
We need those quiet moments.  We need deliberate
concentration and enough pause between each sound.  We
need that experience that occurs before and after the
wind blows.  We need that place where we can stop.  We
need that courage and gumption to walk in the
direction where someone else is.  
     Without any of these, in order, any dialogue
would not have the space to occur, words would have
the sound of click-clack-clang-bang-uhh, we would not
be able to have the clarity to parse understanding, we
would not know of a wind that was at first before and
then after, we would walk and run right by each other,
we would not be able to even approach any potential
dialogue.  (I'm sure I probably left out something,
but I'm not here to think of everything which this
latter mirrors an act of true Pirsigian behavior.)
     Now after having this nurturing in place and
quiet moments parsing the click-clack away from each
other into a coherent sounding discussion where
fitting in the quiet, space, and time for all of this
to happen with true clarity I would say we have
organized a moment that has the quality time for
dialogue.

quality time...

SA

P.S. If things begin to move too fast in France, then
I'm sure the government will have a hard time
understanding what's going on, so will the public, and
boom... we really will notice a situation that lost
contact with quality time in an extreme fashion.  How
much quality time is in place for people to come to
that moment where they understand what's happening,
with clarity, in Iraq?  Poor quality time I'm sure is
valued by the neighbors in that region.  Is this their
choice?  Once chaos is set loose on the world any form
of quality time with the neighbors and family will be
lost, split, and separated.  As Day Care Centers in
the U.S. keep popping up still not able to 'meet the
demands' of the public, (another current economical
concept found in our everyday language) these centers
are found to have one year waiting lists, at least
around here, to get ones' young one inside.

SA  

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