[MD] Religious experience & thinking in an MOQ context

[Heather Perella]

Hello,


> SA:>     When you say, "existence" in the above
> context
> > within "...the relationship of existence..." do
> you
> > mean static quality, and therefore the
> relationship
> > between static quality and dynamic quality is the
> > flux, death, and creativity that the awe of
> religious
> > impulse is found to be due to these being moments
> > where static is meeting dynamic or vice versa.
> >     "...critical thought (about life,
> experience..."
> > "...same territory as..." and you mention
> philosophy. 
> 
> 
> DM: Not sure what the question is here. Obviously
> you
> need SQ to notice the comings and goings of DQ.

     My effort here is to have in mind the religious
nature, experience, and thinking in an MOQ context. 
Thus, I am trying to locate where you might point out
the religion in quality.  Is this religious experience
in the (to paraphrase you) SQ noticing the comings and
goings of DQ?  
 
> > I thought critical thought is exactly philosophy. 
> > Thus, philosophy is in the same territory or found
> to
> > be in all fields of the human sphere, according to
> > what you are saying?  Some fields have latched
> onto
> > static quality in which the static filter has very
> > small holes letting not much DQ pass through and
> > become part of  the current world view.?
> 
> DM: I see existence as a sea of DQ with a few
> islands
> of SQ. And yes science has mainly focussed on SQ to
> date,
> for obvious reasons.

     I guess my point here was that to step back and
state, as you did, critical thinking and then to
identify other fields such as philosophy, religion,
and science might be more of how I interpreted what
you said, then what you exactly said.  When I saw you
state philosophy and critical thinking separated from
each other this did not make sense to me.  I don't
notice critical thinking as being some separate field
from philosophy.  Philosophy is critical thinking, and
any critical thinking that takes place in any other
field is just philosophy.  Thus, when religion
critically thinks, they are using philosophy to
understand religion and the same with science.  This
makes philosophy universal in the intellectual field
of play.  Yet, I thought religion, even when using
philosophy, adds something else to the field of play
into its' inquiry and practice of ?  
     Question mark because in the MOQ context I am
lacking at this moment a definable religion that we
may staticly latch as an identifiable religion in a
MOQ context, unless, it is the awe in DQ coming to
light as we notice it at the peripheral of our
consciousness, yet, not defined concretely enough, but
soon may and thus, when it is we have static quality. 
An example of this would be what happened to me
yesterday.  I was walking from the woods into a plowed
and fallow field with my wife and dog and I eventually
discussed with her.  What I was conscious of at the
time (birds singing where they where singing, the
trees, the field, the woods to our backs, my wife, the
dog, etc...) was static.  Then at the edge of what I
was conscious of I noticed something.  Then I
eventually identified what it was.  So first I was not
conscious of it, because it was not present.  Then I
was vaguely conscious of it, but did not fully wake-up
to what it was.  Then it pushed into what I was
conscious of with such force I recognized it for what
it was.  The wind blowing in the trees just ahead of
us.  The identification of the wind occurred some
moments after it hammered at my awareness in such a
way that my static consciousness eventually changed
dynamically (DQ) and the world at that time changed
for me.  I heard a wind in the trees with everything
else happening that I never experienced before.  This
kind of static quality lasts until a bird flies by and
my world view is dynamically changed to include the
bird flying by.  Simple example, but truly something
that happened and I hope it gets my point and
questions across with clarity.

Thanks,
SA

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