[MD] MoQ as religion

[ian glendinning]

Kevin, (and David)

DQ is "defined" by MoQ.
MoQ is "defined by" DQ.
Correct.

Where's the problem ? This kind of recursion is only problematic if
you are expecting to apply simple logical dialectic to the world.
Fortunately in the real world recursion is alive an well and evolving
all around us.

The course of a river is shaped by the lie of the land.
The lie of the land is shaped by the course of a river.
Fact. This is not a single, simple causal event between a subject and
an object, but a real evolutionary process, with many interacting
quality events, like most things in the real world.

Try this, if you've not seen it before.
http://www.psybertron.org/?p=278

Ian

On 4/6/06, kgt83dr at yahoo.com <kgt83dr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello David,
>
> Dynamic Quality, apart from the Metaphysics of Quality, is meaningless
> because Dynamic Quality gets its defintion from the Metaphysics of Quality.
>
> Reminds me of a Q&A several weeks ago on MF.
>
> Marsha (hi Marsha) asked "Define the smell of a fish?"  I responded, "[...] the
> smell of a fish is how a fish smells." and "[...] the question is meaningless for
> people who don't know what a fish is.  It would be like saying, Define the
> smell of usampdgfwz."
>
>
> Kevin Perez
>
> > Kevin said:
> >
> > "But DQ is meaningless apart from the MoQ."
> >
> > How do you know this? Can you prove it? Show me that DQ is meaningless
> > without the MOQ.  If you think for long enough I'm sure you'll discover that
> > you cannot and that your actually making the mistake of claiming DQ to be
> > something it is not.
> >
> > The mistake in this case is a subtle one.  You've actually used the logical
> > rule of negation on DQ which can't be done because DQ is not 'something'
> > to be negated.   You've said "DQ IS NOT XYZ" and thus defined Dynamic
> > Quality.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > David.
>
>
>
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