[MD] MoQ as religion [Belief Defininition]

[Heather Perella]

Hello DH,


> > Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >  "   We are cultivating a dictionary here that has
> > definitions we may all come to agree upon and
> trust
> > others to look-up words in, in which a new
> language,
> > thus a language tainted with a MOQ mindset, would
> need
> > in any writing culture in order for a MOQ culture
> > having public and common understanding so we may
> > communicate effectively.  Thus, is belief
> fundamental
> > to this paradigm shift?  I don't fully know as of
> yet.
> >  What do others think?  Ilya, if you may state
> what
> > you agree upon in a more elaborate way it may help
> me
> > understand where Kevin and you are coming from. " 
>  
> > 
> 
> Hi SA, and all.
> 
> In regards to your dictionary allusion.  I think
> that words can be interpreted differently no matter
> what they are.  Simply, there will be a certain
> combination of words which satisfies more people
> than other combinations.  It is through discussions
> like MD that definitions or interpretations of the
> MOQ (which itself is an interpretation) can be
> sorted through and the best, kept and built upon.  

     I agree.
 
> In regards to a definition of belief.  I have read
> Pirsig say it doesn't exist.  Personally I think
> it's best seen as a hypothesis or prediction which
> hasn't yet been tested.

     definition of belief?  I agree this is in
question, because belief is belief, not something as
solid or static as say - a tree.  I like your
definition.  Belief itself, to me, is oh, let's say
25% static and 75% dynamic, thus, very hard to define
without having a lot undefined amidst its' definition.
 Tree on the other hand is let's say 75% static and
25% dynamic, thus, has more definition to it.  Of
course these numbers are used to just get a point
across.  Therefore I like your definition given above.

> For Quality however, no 'belief' is necesssary, it's
> already there in front of you. The Zen line is "Can
> you see?".

     Yes, I see (SQ), and I don't see (DQ).  Do we
ever get full SQ (something totally defined)? no; Do
we ever get full DQ (something totally undefined)? no 
I'll always notice, even beyond the pointing finger,
one or the other out of the corner of my eye.

What do you think?

Thanks,
SA

P.S. For some reason, this posting of yours did not go
through in the MOQ.org archives.  The title is in the
archives, but not the message itself that you typed. 
Therefore I had to go into my yahoo inbox to retrieve
this message from you.  I don't know what happened.

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