[MD] MoQ as religion [Belief Defininition]

[Heather Perella]

Hello,


SA:
> >      Trust or Know?   
> > 
> >      You state how "...trusting has shades of
> doubt." 
> > Sure does, and trust has shades of confidence.  To
> > know something does take 'being sure' a step
> further,
> > but how many times did you know something to find
> out
> > you were wrong?
> >      Trust, Belief, and Know these are words that
> I
> > really don't think we will ever rid from
> experience. 
> > I am confident about something at times, and at
> other
> > times I am just not very sure.  What wrong with
> that?
> >      
   David said: 
> What is 'wrong'? There's different forms of knowing,
> I don't think there really is any anything
> completely 'wrong'.  To use your example, if I call
> you wrong, what's to say that your not just another 
> pair of legs walking up the same hill against the
> same wind?

     Thank you, I appreciate your comment here about
the same hill, because I really think we are talking
about something similar, just from different angles.

> What is better, to be confident or not very sure?

     Confident, yet, not very sure could go side by
side.  Some people may have all kinds of confidence
even to the point of revving up their minds to think
they can do it, even though the odds are stacked
against them.  Yet, to admit that one is not very sure
about something is an honest declaration, and to not
be honest about this, yet, to still have all kinds of
confidence could be putting that person in a position
for a great, big let down.  Yet, at times, I am not
sure if the root will hold me, but I am confident that
it will.  Thus, I am not sure, yet, sure enough that
the root will hold.  The lines of confidence and
surety intertwine at times, and at other times they
are opposite of each other.  I am sure it will work,
but have no confidence in myself and the knowing that
I have, so therefore, I don't do anything about it or
do it with caution to the point that I must really be
focused or else my lack of confidence could give me
shaky hands as I try to pull myself up on that root. 
My lack of confidence, not the sureness of the
situation, could hurt me here, or the lack of
confidence could be seen as a lack of sureness. 
Notice how using the same words in a certain emphasis,
something behind the words, puts a different meaning
into their use.  
 
> I think the MOQ allows us to be sure and to know,
> all of the time.

     I don't know everything.

> >      As to being stuck on 'something', DQ is
> > something, but wsurehat is 'something'.  It does
> not have
> > to be anything, and DQ is nothing.  To use a word
> like
> > 'something' is vague and an undefined entity.
> 
> I don't think so. I think something is rather
> definite considering 'some' is associated with a
> quantity rather than 'no' which is associated with
> the negation of a quantity or quality.

     How much is the quantity of some?  Your 'some' of
this might be different than my 'some' of that.  I
know that there is no standard number that allows us
to say that amount of a 'thing' is 'some' and that
amount of 'thing' is 'not some'.  I don't understand
how you are negating quality with DQ (you are saying
that DQ is nothing) as noted in the last part of this
sentence of yours.

>    DQ is
> > something and nothing, then we we identify it, and
> > then that act of identifying it is making DQ,
> static
> > quality.  It's like when you said DQ is the wall. 
> 
> I never said this. I used the slippery example of DQ
> 'merging' with the wall.  I never said DQ is the
> wall.

     ok.
 
>   I
> > say DQ is the universe.  Do you really know the
> wall
> > or universe?  Are you the wall or the universe? 
> no. 
> > I also say Dq is not the universe and not the
> wall. 
> > I'm not trying to get you stuck on what DQ may or
> may
> > not be.  DQ is not what you think it is and when
> you
> > do think you know DQ you don't because you would
> have
> > SQ.  That's all I've been saying.
> > 
> 
> And me too. :)

     We really are climbing the same hill with our
strong legs.  :-)


Thanks, 
SA

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