[MD] Back to the last static latch

[khaled Alkotob]

[Ham]
> Tenny Frank, in his book "History of Rome", wrote: "The original 
> peoples were wasted in wars and scattered in migrations and
colonization and 
> their places were filled chiefly with Eastern Slaves."

[Khaled]
If that's the course of history. What makes you think we can stop it now?
Look I agree with most of what you say about the laws on the books and
enforcing that, but then there is the ebb and flow of humanity that no
fence or piece of paper can stop.


[Ham]
> The modern analogue of slavery is immigration.  When an empire 
> nation opens its borders to immigrants of diverse cultures and
backgrounds, it 
> stands to lose or gain, depending on the talents and working skills of
its new
> citizens and their willingness to assimilate.  Lacking these 
> attributes, the 'melting pot' simile falters, allowing a
disenfranchised class to 
> emerge that not only must be sustained by the state but that represents
a 
> potential source of dissent within its ranks.

[Khaled]
Maybe it's because we are allowing the different kind of immigrant in. In
earlier days they left ( mostly Europe) to come to the US knowing that's
it. We are out of here. Today, they come to work, make money, and even
live abroad after obtaining their passport. I know of people who wanted
the US passport just so they will be able to travel without being
required to get visas.

[Ham]
> Illegal immigration is a problem that will only get worse until (or 
> unless) we take effective action.  The security of our borders is a
primary
> constitutional obligation.  Proper documentation of all U.S. 
> residents is essential to the national welfare.  If we allow ourselves
to be 
> intimidated
> by mobsters on behalf of a foreign nation, we will have taken the 
> first step
> toward social anarchy.  At that point there can be no cure but civil
> violence.

Got a map to Canada. I do

[Ham]
> America lost 623,026 of its citizens in a war over disenfranchised 
> Africans.
> Are we about to engage in another civil war over disenfranchised 
> Mexicans?

[Khaled]
See what happens when you get too lazy to pick your own cotton.