[MD] Back to the last static latch

[Heather Perella]

Hello Ham,

   SA said:
 Some kind of intellectual understanding is what I
> > wanted, and as you stated it is centering around
> the
> > law (an intellectual understanding).  Yet, the
> people
> > in congress do not understand the law,
> intellectually,
> > their focus is on the social reprecussion
> (politics).
> > Nothing new with that.
    Ham said: 
> You may see the law as intellectual understanding,
> but I see it as the legal
> means of controlling behavior.  "Understanding"
> implies negotiation to
> arrive at an equitable solution between the affected
> parties, and the law as
> established by our federal legislators does not
> allow for this.  Laws are
> mandates or rulings which are to be followed to the
> letter without
> equivocation.  When laws have no meaning, you have a
> civilization in
> disarray.

     Laws like the ones already existing in which
calls these immigrants - illegal, were negotiated and
legislated by Congress.  The solution you are wanting
is in the 'you break the law and you are a criminal'
and being such you are tracked down put in prision or
put back into your country of original, if you run
away as with any criminal then the police shoot.  When
laws have no meaning, it is forgotten that the laws
were reasoned out intellectually at some point in
time, and therefore when they are forgotten the
intellect is forgotten, too.  No intellect.

> A nation which cannnot enforce its laws is inviting
> civil disorder and
> anarchy.   This is the kind of irresponsibility that
> led to the collapse of
> the Roman Empire and other great civilizations. 
> When we open our borders
> indiscriminately to hordes of aliens, we lose
> control of our sovereignity
> and make ourselves vulnerable to "mob rule" as well
> as treachery by those
> with an anti-American agenda.  Wasn't it Jefferson
> who said that "eternal
> vigilance is the price of liberty?"

     Sovereignity - who is sovereign?  Are we actually
pointing at somebody with our finger and saying they
are sovereign and have the right to be a human being
or a culture that breaths and is independently
free-thinking on their own?  Or are the mexicans and
other illegals dictating to us how we must think and
act as a nation, and therefore we have no intellect in
use to actually understand, know, and use some wisdom
to deter this?  It may well be too late for intellect.
 That level is seeminly missing here, and we are on
the social level but with the indecision in Washington
there soon may well only the biological level left and
teeth and claws may ravage across the land. 
 
> > We live in a culture with no wisdom.  This
> > culture has brute strength (no skill) to throw
> around,
> > but what is to be done with that brute strength
> now -
> > does the U.S. just kill them all?
> 
> What we lack is not wisdom but the will to implement
> it.  

     I've said this many times.  A definition I use to
define wisdom is 'knowledge put into action'.  Without
the will to implement anything you just have
knowledge.  You know about something, but value not
its' experience or how it will be put into action. 
Knowledge is all in your head, wisdom is not just in
your head, but its' in the woods, in our hands, its'
picking up an axe to chop wood.  Don't forgot about
the dynamic quality of moral value-judgements of what
is good intellectual and balance on all levels when
wisdom occurs.

If you want to put
> it in philosophical terms, we've lost the value of
> our national heritage and
> are no longer willing to defend what America stands
> for.  The
> 'multiculturalists' have led us to believe that we
> have a moral obligation
> to extend our freedom and resources to anyone who
> comes here, that the
> fruits of our hard-earned freedom must be shared by
> all.  We teach this in
> our schools, as a substitute for the facts of
> history.  It's no wonder that
> our younger generation regards personal
> responsibility as an outmoded notion
> with no relevance for Americans.
 
     Personal responsibility?  When were we ever
allowed to think independently in school.  Remember
the day(s) of show and tell.  Why were they so much
fun?  For one, it was because one was able, for that
very brief moment, share something about themselves
from their own tiny skull and the rest of their valued
life experience.

> Tenny Frank, in his book "History of Rome", wrote:
> "The original peoples
> were wasted in wars and scattered in migrations and
> colonization and their
> places were filled chiefly with Eastern Slaves."

     Check my post right before this on U.S. wars.

> The modern analogue of slavery is immigration.  When
> an empire nation opens
> its borders to immigrants of diverse cultures and
> backgrounds, it stands to
> lose or gain, depending on the talents and working
> skills of its new
> citizens and their willingness to assimilate. 
> Lacking these attributes, the
> 'melting pot' simile falters, allowing a
> disenfranchised class to emerge
> that not only must be sustained by the state but
> that represents a potential
> source of dissent within its ranks.

     Yes, illegal immigrants are another lope hole for
slavery.

> Illegal immigration is a problem that will only get
> worse until (or unless)
> we take effective action.  The security of our
> borders is a primary
> constitutional obligation.  Proper documentation of
> all U.S. residents is
> essential to the national welfare.  If we allow
> ourselves to be intimidated
> by mobsters on behalf of a foreign nation, we will
> have taken the first step
> toward social anarchy.  At that point there can be
> no cure but civil
> violence.
> 
> America lost 623,026 of its citizens in a war over
> disenfranchised Africans.
> Are we about to engage in another civil war over
> disenfranchised Mexicans?

     Platt still avoids this question - Will we nuke
and kill the illegals, isn't this more of an immanent
threat than Iraq was at the time?  I mean their right
here, in this country, they've invaded - what now?  


Thanks,
SA

 

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