[MD] dharma, the way, zazen, path, the morning fog, etc...

[Stephen Hannon]

Don't worry I'm still here!  Thank you!

On 4/15/06, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Stephen Hannon asked:
> Just because these (faith, hope, love, forgiveness and mercy) are social
> values, does that really mean they are unimportant?  For example, breathing
> is a biological phenomenon.  Is it therefore immoral to breathe?  This is
> one aspect of the MOQ "moral" hierarchy that I don't understand.
>
> dmb answers:
> Unimportant? Well, they don't call 'em "values" for nothing. In fact, as far
> as social level values go, these would definately be at the top of the list.
> I might have to replace "faith" with "trust" in order to avoid the unwanted
> theological implications, but what kind of monster would I have to be to
> deny that hope, love, mercy and forgiveness have no value? This is the kind
> of compassion that results from the opening of a human heart and I'm all for
> it. The problem is when this is confused with Dynamic Quality or when these
> fine sentiments are used to trump intellectual values. Its kind of like
> over-stepping its authority. Same kind of logic applies up and down the
> scale so that there is nothing inherently wrong with sex or sexual pleasure
> and life must go on, but these biological level values shouldn't trump
> social level values or intellect or be confused with Dynamic Quality either.
>
> And I would assert, quite nakedly because it seems so obvious, that it is
> immoral to NOT breath. Breathing is a moral imperative, something you must
> do to protect life, your own life. Oh, sweet baby Jesus, please tell me
> you're OK Stephan. You weren't waiting for permission to breathe, were you?
> Somebody, call 911 right away! Is there a Doctor in the house?  Oh God, what
> have I done?
>
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