[MD] Why the return to literal anti-intellectual religion

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Sun Apr 16 09:46:57 PDT 2006 

Platt,

If <you> make a succinct and beautiful statement about Quality, and I 
totally agreed with you, does it follow that I'm a 
Republican?   There are Republicans, Democrats, Independents, and 
Communists who are anti-war.  If a person is in theanti-war movement, 
it doesn't follow that they are a Communists.  Now if Mark Crispin 
Miller has stated that he is a Communists, I would think that he 
might still be one, but maybe not.   Has the World Can't Wait 
organization made a statement that they are directly affiliated with 
the RCP?   If not, what are you doing besides trying to discredit Miller?

Marsha




At 12:17 PM 4/16/2006, Platt wrote:
>Marsha,
>
>Did you check out?
>
>http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20051203143218921
>
>Of course, you raise an interesting philosophical question: What is a fact?
>
>Platt
>
>
>uoting MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>:
>
> >
> > Platt,
> >
> > As far as I can understand, the link is the statement, "World Can't
> > Wait was formed in 2005. Its headquarters are in New York City.  Some
> > Leftists believe that World Can't Wait is a front group for the
> > Revolutionary Communist Party, USA.[1]"
> >
> > "Some Leftists believe..." is hardly fact.   I didn't find any solid
> > evidence.  And while Wikipedia is interesting, it  has been proven,
> > on occasion, to possess inaccuracies.
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 11:38 AM 4/16/2006, Platt wrote:
> > >Marsha:
> > >
> > >Check it out and decide for yourself.
> > >
> > >Platt
> > >
> > >
> > >Quoting MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Platt
> > > >
> > > > "Some Leftists believe"????   What kind of a statement would you be
> > > > presenting as proof?
> > > >
> > > > Marsha
> > >
> > > > At 11:09 AM 4/16/2006, you wrote:
> > > > >Hi DMB, Ian, All:
> > > > >
> > > > >In case anyone is curious about who Mark Crispin Miller is -- the guy
> > > > >quoted at length by DMB -- you might want to check out the 
> following as
> > > > >I did. Especially look under "Endorsements."
> > > > >
> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Crispin_Miller
> > > > >
> > > > >You'll see Mr. Miller signed the public statement by an outfit called
> > > > >"The World Can't Wait." Who are they? Another website provides the
> > > > >answer -- a front for the Revolutionary Communist Party 
> (RCP). Check it
> > > > >out at:
> > > > >
> > > > >http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20051203143218921
> > > > >
> > > > >Finally, if you want to know about the RCP, here's their site:
> > > > >
> > > > >http://rwor.org/rcp-e.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >So, at least we know, thanks to the Internet, who Miller is and where
> > > > >his political sympathies lie. One can draw his own conclusions about
> > > > >DMB. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >Platt
> > > > >
> > > > >DMB wrote in a post to Ian:
> > > > >
> > > > > > More broadly, out there in the American culture, the kind 
> of care you
> > > > > > call for is not practiced by the other side. I heard a 
> lecture by Mark
> > > > > > Crispin Miller a few days ago. He was talking about one 
> of his latest
> > > > > > books (FOOLED AGAIN: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election &
> > > Why They'll
> > > > > > Steal the Next One Too) and along the way explained the 
> motivation of
> > > > > > the fundamentalist Republican base. He was trying to describe the
> > > > > > ferocity of their motivation as a way to explain why 
> they're apparently
> > > > > > so willing to lie, cheat, steal and bribe their way to 
> political power,
> > > > > > despite the fact that they are self-described Christian. He
> > > said they're
> > > > > > willing to work hard and break the rules because they don't just
> > > > > > disagree with secularists. They don't think liberal 
> intellectuals and
> > > > > > humanists are merely wrong or ignorant, they're convinced that such
> > > > > > people are Satanic, of the devil, opposed to God. 
> Seriously, he said.
> > > > > > The audience laughed nervously at that. At which point he 
> went out of
> > > > > > his way to say he was not kidding. He went on to explain, 
> much like Sam
> > > > > > Harris, that these people are actually looking forward to the
> > > end of the
> > > > > > world. These are the people who control the party that controls all
> > > > > > three branches of government. Think about it Ian. They control the
> > > > > > largest military power in the history of the world and 
> they hate you.
> > > > > > They fantasize about the day that God cleasnes the earth 
> of people like
> > > > > > you and me. These people bomb gay bars and shoot abortion 
> providers in
> > > > > > the head. And you're worried about hurting their feelings?
> > > Where is your
> > > > > > sense of proportion, man? Tolerance is a great cause, but 
> tolerating
> > > > > > intolerance does NOT serve the cause. You know?
> > > > >
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