[MD] Petitions and Politics

pholden at davtv.com pholden at davtv.com
Tue Apr 18 18:30:51 PDT 2006


HI Horse,

And thanks for all you do to keep this site going. We may disagree on what
constitutes evidence -- and other things -- but I'm always grateful for your
continued efforts (not to mention pecuniary outlays) that makes it possible for all
of us to exchange views. 

Best regards,
Platt
   



Quoting Horse <horse at darkstar.uk.net>:

> Hi Platt
> 
> Your post neatly concludes the discussion regarding whether there is any evidence
> that the  
> World Can't Wait is a front for the Revolutionary Communist Party. You haven't
> offrered 
> anything other than hearsay etc. so the only rational conclusion is that you can
> find nothing 
> other than this. Of  course this doesn't prove that they're not a front for the
> RCP but proving a 
> negative is a bit more tricky.
> 
> Thanks for the conversation.
> 
> Horse
> 
> 
> On 18 Apr 2006 at 7:34, Platt Holden wrote:
> 
> > Hi Horse, 
> >  
> > > I don't have to agree with all or most of the above in order to sign the
> > > petition against the war in Iraq.
> > 
> > Are all Britons in the habit of signing petitions against the Iraq war 
> > without caring what else it says or who sponsors them? Or is it just 
> > you?  
> > 
> > >What it means is
> > > that I think Tony Blair is corrupt and a war criminal - as well as being
> > > morally bankrupt.
> > 
> > What's the evidence to support that accusation? 
> > 
> > > > Wouldn't you agree that anyone signing the above petition leans to the
> > > > left of the political spectrum? 
> > > 
> > > No. I'm sure there are many such as myself who are more concerned with
> > > the criminal activities of George Bush.
> > 
> > I'm sure most reasonable people after reading the petition and seeing 
> > that the signees included the likes of Harry Belafonte, Ward Churchill, 
> > Jane Fonda, Al Sharpton, Cindy Sheehan, Cornel West,  and Howard Zinn 
> > would say yes. 
> > 
> > > > So you assertion about my having no further evidence obviously misses
> > > > it's intended mark. Of course, you can dismiss the evidence if you
> > > > wish, just as many have dismissed the evidence of an abundance of
> > > > left- wing college professors, not to mention the mainstream media. 
> > > 
> > > OK - I had a look so we can add another word to the group - innuendo.
> > > That makes 4 so far - hearsay, tittle-tattle, mutterings and innuendo.
> > > But as I suspected, bugger all in the way of anything that resembles
> > > evidence.
> > 
> > Which raises the question: What is legitimate evidence? I'll take 
> > Pirsig's art gallery metaphor as my answer. What's yours? 
> > 
> > >So my assertion regarding evidence still stands. Is this
> > > really what constitutes evidence in the USA or is it just you? If it is
> > > then that could explain why you have so many in jail. Take a few
> > > photo's, start a whispering campaign, fire up a few blogsites and
> > > hey-presto - Guilty as charged m'lud!
> > 
> > Do all Britons become a bit hysterical when confronted with legitimate 
> > evidence, or is it just you? 
> > 
> > > And as for the left-wing professors and mainstream media nonsense, I'm
> > > sure Arlo can (and has) expressed this better than I can.
> > 
> > Now there's a reliable, unbiased witness. Yeah, right.
> > 
> > What I don't understand is why those obviously on the left of the 
> > political spectrum are so loath to admit it. Perhaps you can explain.
> > 
> > Platt
> > 
> 
> 
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