[MD] On Indian Values (Part I?)

[Arlo J. Bensinger]

Let me recap for the folk all the questions in this thread you are ignoring and
evading first, shall we? Then I'll answer you inane accusation about
eliminating motorcycle tax as "Marxism". (Stay tuned, boys and girls, this is
gonna be good...)

So, I assume your answer to my question as to why abolition of the income tax in
favor of a progressive consumption tax, as favored by Forbes Magazine, is NOT
Marxist. I'll assume too, you can find nothing Marxist in my addition that
eliminates taxes altogether on the lowest 5% valued necessities for anyone.
Good. I know admitting it undermines your continued use of rhetorical fear, but
your evasion is answer enough for me.

As to my other point, bankruptcy, I'll take it that you can find no support
whatsoever that abolishing bankruptcy for BOTH individuals and companies is
Marxist. Nor, I see, can you find an answer for why bankruptcy, if you favor
it, (1) is NOT a regulation of the market and (2) should be denied individuals
but given to companies. Again, admitting this proves you are doing nothing but
distortive fear tactics. But again, your evasion speaks loudy.

While we're reminding the folk of questions you're evading, perhaps I can offer
you one more chance to point to one thing in Pirsig that (1) you believe and
(2) opposes "conservative orthodoxy". Anything? Either book? One thing?

Are there any "Victorian values" that are "unfitted for modern life"? Which
ones?

Okay. That brings us back to the present charge, that eliminating motorcycle tax
as a means to encourage conservation is "Marxist".

[Platt]
Yes indeed. Your willingness to use the social engineer's carrot-stick  approach
to change behavior is right out of the Marxist playbook. I  suppose you would
be in favor of raising taxes on SUV's. Hell, why not  just give give everybody
a bicycle so Americans can get around like the  Chinese in Beijing? That would
encourage your desire to conserve  gasoline wouldn't it? Better yet, give a tax
rebate to everyone who  walks instead of rides. 

[Arlo]
Before even commenting on the obvious "fear-distort-Wurlitzer" bunk that makes
up 90% of this paragraph (that's quite sad, Platt), let me first ask this
question.

Is giving tax relief to corporations to develop alternate fuels "Marxism"?  

And this, is giving tax relief to the wealthy to encourage investment "Marxism"?

Seems to me, if you tell me that using tax relief to encourage behavior is
"Marxist", our oil and energy companies are Marxist. Trickle-down economics is
Marxist. Because of these rely on "social engineering" via tax relief to
"encourage" a desired activity.

As for the rest, the only "obvious" thing, Platt, continues to be your
completely idiotic and assinine attempts to use fear and rhetoric when you have
obviously nothing of substance to say. But, hey, what can one expect from
someone weened on the Limbaugh radio program.

"Arlo the Marxist. Arlo the Marxist".... how patently sad, boring and idiotic.
But go on, say it again. The Eternal Party Jester, nothing more.

Arlo