Re: [MD] “Atheism alone is the surest way to morality”

[ian glendinning]

Or alternatively "Fun with Theism" ....
http://www.chrisbeach.co.uk/viewQuotes.php

My personal favourite is US President John Adams
"The Government of the United States is in no sense founded on the
Christian religion"

Priceless.
Both Bill Hicks and Ayn Rand in the list - something for everyone :-)
Ian

On 8/8/06, gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> ooooh i didn't like the sound of that.
>
> "atheism shifts the basis of morality from faith in
> god to obligations of social living. Moral conduct is
> not a passport to heaven; it is social necessity."
>
> aherm....well we in the west can vouch for the moral
> efficacy of an unenlightened atheistic society...works
> like a charm!! (a really crappy plastic one that is).
>
> methinks we will hear more about this wanker, cos he
> is ideologically useful to the west.
>
> it ain't about faith; its about knowledge; it's about
> self-knowledge. and self-knowledge leads to identity
> with the universe/god/whatever; it leads to seeing
> others *as yourself*; feeling this reality of absolute
> kinship with all is oneness. this is spirituality.
> this is intelligence; this is aesthetic/moral
> awareness. this awareness is constantly being dulled
> by immersion in a loud/ego-based/ugly environment.
>
>
>
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