[MD] Dreaming and death
ian glendinning
psybertron at gmail.com
Sun Aug 13 17:39:20 PDT 2006
Squonk,
I get that point now ... sq latching sufficent to be a latch to build
on, but not so "static" as to inhibit further evolution ... the latter
being an inferior kind of sq.
BTW the increasing pace of evolution is natural to conclude in the
"memetic" world, where ideas can circulate and mutate at the "speed of
light" across ever more interconnected channels of communication -
quite unlike biological "genetic" reproductive cycles. As you say this
is a really interesting area, whether you'd choose to use the word
meme or not. (This is related to the other Kurzweil thread.)
The internet really is better than sex :-)
Ian
On 8/14/06, Squonkonguitar at aol.com <Squonkonguitar at aol.com> wrote:
> Ian: Squonk, you said,
>
> [QUOTE]
> That which is appropriate is merely the current sq convention. The
> obsolete is worse than the current sq convention, IFF evolution is
> becoming more Dynamic, better IFF evolution is failing to latch.
> [UNQUOTE]
>
> I like that pragmatic summary. (I'm assuming you mean "if and only if"
> by IFF) ....
>
> Mark: Hello Ian. Yes, i'm trying to apply my training.
>
> Ian: explain what you meant by "evolution failing to latch".
>
> Mark: A new sq pattern has to accomplish two things:
> 1. Be stable enough to survive within the current repertoire.
> 2. Be open to Dynamic change (modify the repertoire).
> If a new pattern latches but cannot go any further it is worse than the
> current convention because it can't become more Dynamic (modify the repertoire).
> If a new pattern fails to latch it can't become more Dynamic anyway without
> making it's failing to latch worse (chaos)?
>
> Ian: Are you suggesting the natural consequence of "evolution" is more
> evolution and less sq's, fewer SPV's, fewer "species", fewer latches
> full stop ?
>
> Mark: No. I do not want to suggest that at all, and this may sound like a
> paradox. More sq patterns, open to more Dynamic change, accelerates the
> evolutionary process it seems to me. I'm not a computer modeller but i would like to
> see this tested.
> Evolution generates more sq patterns, and more latches, and more changes and
> thus becomes more Dynamic.
>
> Ian: Interesting idea, doubtful biologically, but feasible
> socio-intellectually. Maybe "real" life is ballistic.
>
> Ian
>
> Mark: If one considers the diversity of DNA variation within Gaia, or the
> biosphere, then maybe we already have proof of the biological feasibility of
> this evolutionary acceleration? It astounds me personally.
> The most interesting accept of all this, as i am sure you will not be
> surprised to hear Ian, is the ability of an increasing complex system to maintain
> its stability.
>
> Love,
> Mark
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