[MD] Kant's Motorcycle

[David M]

Case

Would you see sensation and felt-experience
as two sides of the same reality?

I would assume that sensation simply means
that our
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> Case said to Micah:
> No, you are confusing sensation and perception. Sensations are just 
> neurons
> firing. Perception is the organization of these impulses into thoughts and
> knowledge. Kant was saying that something in our nature contributes to 
> this
> process of knowledge formation.
>
> dmb says:
> Besides the fact that this picture is predicated on SOM assumptions, the
> categories of thought which determine the process of knowledge formation 
> can
>
> no longer be imagined in terms of anantomy but rather in terms of language
> and culture. The shape of reality is determined by our conventional
> concepts, which are natural, but not in the sense that brains and fingers
> are natural. The rate of biological evolution is such that anatomical
> features are practially constant. But cultural evolution is far more rapid
> and the shape of reality changes even in historic time. I mean, the
> categories of the mind evolve as fast as the language and culture so that
> they are something like identical.
>
> [Case]
> Sensation is purely anatomical. The processing of sensations is purely
> biological. There are specific regions of the brain associated with
> language. The shape of reality is formed by the interaction of our biology
> with our environment. That is what experience is.
>
> We are endowed with a physiology that is sufficiently plastic to allow all
> sorts of connections and organizational schemes. Culture and the specific
> forms of language emerge out of this plasticity. So I agree that on the
> whole categories of mind are not strictly anatomical but they do reside in
> and depend on anatomy. I am also intrigued by the idea that certain
> categories of mind like Kant's, space and time or Jung's, hero, wise man 
> and
> earth mother seem to resonate in the human anatomy producing similar
> patterns of thought across time and culture. This seems a bit like 
> language
> which has a similar structure and function but diverse manifestations 
> within
> our species.
>
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