[MD] The MOQ's First Principle

[Arlo Bensinger]

[Craig]
My point exactly.  Treating inequality itself as a crime is 
dangerous.  It can lead to exterminating those who are different 
(e.g., Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals.)

[Arlo]
I'm not sure what you mean, Craig. I'm not sure I'd agree that the 
holocaust was the result of "treating inequality itself as a crime". 
Maybe treating "difference" as a crime. But difference does not imply 
inequality.

[Arlo previously]
For example, suppose society A holds that race is a 
determinant in deciding who gets rewarded and punished. We'd hardly 
consider that "equal"

[Craig]
Or into university.  Do I sense an emerging right-winger?

[Arlo]
The question I have is this, if we remove "affirmative action" do you 
believe that the resulting system will NOT reward "white people" on 
the virtue of their "race"? Many conservatives say "no", only ability 
will be a factor, but study after study disproves this (a recent one 
traced applications containing "obvious" black names versus ones with 
racially ambiguous ones, those with black-sounding names were 
significantly less likely to receive a request for an interview).

I am, personally, NOT a fan of affirmative action programs, and I 
think there is abuse in the way it plays out, but I'm also not a fan 
of a system that privileges white people over non-whites either.

Ideally, everything SHOULD be based on ability and merit. And when 
"race" is truly invisible, then it will be.