[MD] Social Imposition ?

[ian glendinning]

Mark / Marsha, and Khaled ...

I don't disagree with you, but I'd make one minor clarification.

Quality cannot be "described" in intellectual patterns, you say.
I'd say it cannot be "defined" in such descriptive patterns.

If we didn't allow ourselves to even "describe" it in our intellectual
patterns, we'd have precious little language or discourse on the
suibject. So we / I do describe it, as pragmatically as we can for the
discourse to take place, but never forget the ineffable nature of the
subject we are talking about.

Khaled, before we digress into supplementary questions, I'd like to
get Arlo's reaction to my paraphrase of what I thought we'd agreed.
(any such agreement is always pragmatic and contingent on the
imperfection of language - an intellectual pattern - or a model like
the MoQ - to capture it.)

Ian

On 12/15/06, Squonkonguitar at aol.com <Squonkonguitar at aol.com> wrote:
>
> In a message dated 15/12/2006 22:36:42 GMT Standard Time,
> psybertron at gmail.com writes:
>
> Hi folks  ,,, I thought I'd spin off a new thread from the point I'd
> reached with  Arlo ... If I may paraphrase what I think we may have
> (almost)  agreed
>
> "The quality of an intellectual pattern is inversley  proportional to
> the level of effort (needed to be) imposed by society to  maintain that
> pattern, (but is proportional to how widespread it is  believed by  free
> thinkers)."
>
> Discuss.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> Hello Ian and Arlo,
> Proportion is a rational (intellectual) concept.
> Rationality is founded upon truth.
> Truth is a species of the Good.
> The Good cannot be encapsulated by that which is less than itself.
> Quality is a synonym of the Good.
> The above question assumes Qualify may be described in intellectual  patterns.
> Quality cannot be described as intellectual patterns.
>
> Love,
> Mark
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