[MD] Social Imposition ?

[Case]

Has anyone one suggested that an easy way to distinguish the social from the
intellectual level is that the intellectual level can be written down?

Social behaviors among our ancestors date back at least 2.5 million years.
It wasn't until we started writing things down that all this brouhaha
started. 

The social level does not even require spoken language. It is about what we
do not what we think. When we think about what we do another level of
relationships emerges. Ideas begin to relate to each other. 

Storytellers spun ideas into legends and created shared culture around a
campfire. This is the beginning of the intellectual level. It wasn't taken
very seriously though, until people started taking notes.

Case

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[DMB]
I would defy anyone here to conceive of any thing in the universe that is
not
BOTH an individual and also part of larger, collective entity.

[Platt]
Mind. There is no collective mind.

[Arlo]
Sure there is. The Mythos, Pirsig calls it.

"Religion isn't invented by man. Men are invented by religion. Men invent
responses to Quality, and among these responses is an understanding of what
they themselves are. You know something and then the Quality stimulus hits
and
then you try to define the Quality stimulus, but to define it all you've got
to work with is what you know. So your definition is made up of what you
know.
It's an analogue to what you already know. It has to be. It can't be
anything else. And the mythos grows this way. By analogies to what is known
before. The mythos is a building of analogues upon analogues upon analogues.
These fill the collective consciousness of all communicating mankind. Every
last bit of it." (ZMM)


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