[MD] Social Imposition ?

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Hi Marsha, Mark, Ian, and others  (comments below)


[Mark]
> > >Proportion is a  rational  (intellectual) concept.
> > >Rationality is founded upon   truth.
> > >Truth is a species of the Good.
> > >The  Good cannot be  encapsulated by that which is
> less than  itself.
> > >Quality is a synonym of  the Good.
> >  >The above question assumes Qualify may be
> described in   intellectual
> >patterns.
> > >Quality cannot be described  as  intellectual
> patterns.


[Marsha]
> >The Good is an  interesting concept.  I  understand
> the Good within the
> >MOQ as the  value  necessary for something's
> existence.  Does that
> >sound  correct  to you?

[Mark]
> >Not only  does this sound good but you have exactly
> described the approach  i
> >hoped to use for PhD research.
> >How's  that?

[Marsha] 
> Sounds like a great  topic.   It took me a very long
> time to really get  it.


Mark, wouldn't the good, to be understood  (an
intellectual activity), be thus, intellectualized.  I
read these  posts, then kept on reading the other posts
in this thread.  I believe  Ian brings up this point I
have, as well.  
Intellectual level involves ideas.  Ideas can be
found helping social  level, but those ideas are
intellectual.  Even cro-magnon people  thought, and
thus, intellectualized upon an intellectual level. 
People  before and outside of ancient Greece thought. 
What the MoQ is introducing is  a kind of idea, an idea
involving dynamic quality and static quality.   Social,
biological, inorganic, and chaotic levels are ideas,
sure, but  once ideas, they are being manipulated upon
the intellectual level.   Yet, social, biological,
inorganic, and chaotic levels,  though
intellectualized, are levels unto themselves outside
of  intellect.  Pirsig gets around this outside-inside
stuff and notices all  these levels are static quality.
Then we've got this dynamic quality,  too.  And put
altogether this is all quality.



one blanket  of a cloud,
SA

Hi SA,
Well, coherence when experienced lacks self and upon reflection is  static.
Pure DQ is something i can't talk about SA.
Love,
Mark