[MD] Social Imposition ?

[PhaedrusWolff at carolina.rr.com]

But this is not an "individual-collective" issue, it is a DQ-SQ issue. 
Collectivization occurs on all MOQ levels, from inorganic to 
intellectual, as individuals combine to create greater and more 
complex individuals. Eventually, a level of complexity is met that 
allows the next leap to be not simply one of greater complexity but an 
entirely new thing. As cells collectivize to form greater and more 
complex biological patterns, eventually those complex biological 
patterns, through their collective behavior, give rise to social 
patterns. As social patterns collectivize and gain complexity they 
eventually produce, by virtue of their collective activity, 
intellectual patterns. Then, just as on all the MOQ levels, those 
individual intellectual patterns collectivize. 

The human mind is both the product of individual micro-genetic 
experience and the assimiliation of collective patterns of thought, 
the mythos, that shape, guide and enable the individual... that unites 
our minds as the cells of a body are united. 

Hi Arlo,

Would it help to say the intellectual patterns is what creates the 
need for the biological patterns to evolve beyond natural evolution? 

You’ve already mentioned the child that grew up on an island. 

Consider a closed group such as a religious cult which is so adamant 
of their religion they choose to create their own small groups to live 
off the land and deny any validity to the advancement of society 
through technology, TV, computers, radios, science or even the 
newspaper. Now consider the individuals living in New York City. It 
would be the intellectual patterns needed to survive in New York City 
that would require the biological patterns to evolve.  

What would this mean in collectivism? Would the universal energy that 
runs through all of us bring the religious cult up to the same 
intellectual level as the New Yorkers? Would the newborn children’s 
brains evolve to the level of the newborns in New York? 

It would be intellectual stimulation which ‘Allows’ biological 
evolution beyond that which might come naturally. Dogmatism in 
religion or culture might be all that holds back this collective mind 
you speak of, but it would hold it back, huh? 

The limits of a collective mind would simply be the degree of 
intellectual stimulation experienced throughout the lifetime of the 
culture in which the generations have been exposed to. The universal 
mind would assure basic skills for all, but some will develop beyond 
that of others. 

This development would be due to the social, or better stated, 
intellectual stimulus of the environment in which these individuals 
live. 

What you think? 

Chin