[MD] Is Morality innate in the cosmos?
Heather Perella
spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 7 08:21:11 PST 2006
Hey Platt and Ham,
I sat back and watched your discussions this week
to see where they are in this subject. I am seeing
some linkage to what I have been trying to say. I
notice one or both of you have been not seeing my
point, and this is my mistake. Clarity falls on the
person seeking to clarify their own subject matter. I
will continue to provide clarity into our conversation
on the subject, but this may take some time.
H: "But every individual's value-compliment is
unique from any other's in the same way that every
person's subjective reality is unique. Since Essence
is the absolute Not-other, these differences are only
the conditional manifestation of Essence caused by its
negation of nothingness. Hence, the illusion of
existence."
Is this illusion of existence you (Ham) talk
about based on the Essences' or Nothingness' not being
completely present in any one individual whether that
individual be bird or human? The key concept being
"not completely present". Thus, if essence or
nothingness could be completely fulfilled or present
in any one individual, then are you saying existence
would not be an illusion? Yet, I would say are not
these bits and pieces really here, and if we start to
think we see the whole picture, then our fallacy is
only in that kind of thinking. If, we notice that
these bits and pieces are bits and pieces of reality
and we realize we don't know what all of the bits and
pieces are when completely present (thus what they are
when we are completely aware of them), then are we not
accepting a reality four ourselves? I guess maybe
what you are trying to say is that this incomplete
reality we are aware of is called illusion. Is that
your point? Yet, if this essence is here in negation,
even if only in bits and pieces, then we recognize
this incompleteness but only essence is in negation so
shouldn't we only be aware of essence. The only
illusion I see is the illusion one might have if they
think they see the whole essence or nothingness. When
one recognizes that they are not aware of the whole
essence or nothingness a reality is present, though
not complete, it is present and not an illusion.
This is what I meant by 'the center of the
universe is everywhere and nowhere at the same time'.
The bits and pieces of essence negated in the universe
places a center or reality of the universe and where
the universe is either being here everywhere or
nowhere. By replacing your term negation with center
(or our definition of center) my point tries to come
across in this conversation. Where essence of the
universe is completely the universe and if I would try
to point out where that essence or center is I could
point everywhere or nowhere. This is because if I use
the strict definition of center, center implies an
outer part exists and if the universe is the only
here, then no outer part of the universe could exist,
thus, center in this context would imply a center
nowhere, or a universe having no center.
Please explain what you (Ham) have commented on as:
"Since Essence is the absolute Not-other..." What do
you mean by Not-other?
SA
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