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[ian glendinning]

Mike, Khaled,

I've said my stuff on this subject - and I'm glad to see the whole
Moselm / Zionist / Oil&Gas / Nuclear debate as single subject - 'cos
that's what it is.

Talking of cool heads, and the Rodney King parallel ... There was a
real hot-headed Islamic extremist on BBC Newsnight last night, amongst
several moderates. (He was so extreme in his Islamic world domination
agenda, that most of the others in the debate could only really
ridicule and shame him, but hey, he wasn't in debating mode). The one
thing he did say that we should notice, was about inconsistency and
hypocrisy. His justification of his world-domination agenda was a
reactionary one against what he saw as western hypocrisy.

Consistency of blasphemy and offence side of "free-speech",
consistency of support and condemnation for non-moselm and moselm
aggression and nuclear ambitions. Geo-politics makes it all go to hell
as you put it, because it is forever reducing the public issues to
simple black and white ones.

We need cool heads and plenty of communication.
Ian

On 2/7/06, khaled Alkotob <khaledsa at juno.com> wrote:
> Hello Mike
>
> Iran must be getting assurances from somewhere else, here are a few
> possibilities.
>
> 1. Their cousins ( the Shiaa ) in Iraq
> 2. China
> 3. Russia
> 4. Brazil and Venezuela
>
> They know that a war with the US is a unilateral one. The US won't be
> putting any troops on the ground it will just be another shock-and-aw
> bombing campaign.
>
> As for the latest political uprising, well a friend and I were having
> that discussion yesterday and he wanted to know why? Well that would be
> the same answer as the Los Angeles Riots after the policemen were
> acquitted in the Rodney King beating. Or as to way sports fans do what
> they do when their team loses. The unexplainable. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
> Technically a Muslim should be offended the SAME whether that cartoon
> depicted Jesus, Moses, Abraham or Mohammed. Unfortunately geopolitics
> come in and it all goes to hell. It's a part of the world the west will
> never understand. Just look at history.
>
> They sure have the upper hand and they got 75 million to back them up.
>
> I hope cool heads take over.
>
> khaled
>
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 18:08:12 +0000 Michael Hamilton
> <thethemichael at gmail.com> writes:
> > Hi Khaled,
> >
> > Puzzling, isn't it? I can think of 3 reasons why Iran would play-up
> > its nuclear ambitions:
> >
> > 1. It genuinely wants nuclear-powered electricity.
> > 2. The fundamentalist theocrats in charge of Iran know perfectly
> > well
> > that the suspicion of WMD provides the perfect way for the US
> > adminstration to sell a war to its citizens (after all, it worked
> > for
> > Iraq). And war is exactly what the proponents of violent, extremist
> > Islam want, in order to radicalise the moderate Muslims of the
> > world.
> > 3. The increasing tensions (represented by the cartoon controversy
> > as
> > well as the nuclear scare) suit the fundamentalist theocrats of Iran
> > just as much as they suit the hard-right leadership of America. This
> > is the "1984" scenario, where both sides (fundamentalist Islamic and
> > neo-conservative) use the fear of the other side in order to control
> > their citizens. Basically, the extremists on both sides can only
> > remain in power by virtue of the high-alert war atmosphere.
> >
> > 2 and 3 are clearly linked, and need not exclude 1 from being true
> > as
> > well. The over-riding theme is that both the US and Iranian
> > leaderships are encouraging the WMD-propaganda in order to ensure
> > that
> > we go to war. Those of us who equally despise both neo-conservatism
> > and fundamentalist-Islam can only hope to stay out of the
> > cross-fire.
> > For this reason, I'm extremely glad that UK newspapers have
> > refrained
> > from publishing the cartoons.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mike
> >
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