[MD] Nagarjuna's MKK

ian glendinning psybertron at gmail.com
Fri Feb 10 03:12:13 PST 2006


What time of day is it where you are Marsha ?

On 2/10/06, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Ian,
>
> I can imagine it could be a tough read for someone with a life.  I
> read it cover to cover (some rereads), but then I don't have anything
> else going on but to think about these things.  I was never one who
> had much faith in logical argument, but it took my breath away.  It
> left, and still leaves me speechless.  I'm happy that you're reading it.
>
> I bet Paul's blog is interesting.  How do I get to it?
>
> Marsha
>
>
> At 05:21 AM 2/10/2006, Ian wrote:
> >Marsha, (and Paul)
> >
> >So far Marsha, I've managed three short sessions - rather tired
> >bedtime reads - so progress is slow.
> >
> >I've read all the introductory / background material. - OK
> >I've read through the bare translations (mostly) and it's full of all
> >the expected "allusions" - though like the Tao Te Ching, it's not
> >really intended to be read from beginning to end is it ?
> >
> >In reading the analytical chapters - I found the "Conditions" chapter
> >illuminating and reasuringly intelligible on the issues of no absolute
> >ontology, and "explicability" (my "quality of expalantion" and "holes
> >in any metaphysics" agendas) neatly summarised in this Garfield quote
> >that Paul used on his blog ...
> >
> >"To assert the emptiness of causation is to accept the utility of our
> >causal discourse and explanatory practice, but to resist the
> >temptation to see these as grounded in reference to causal powers or
> >as demanding such grounding. Dependent origination simply is the
> >explicability and coherence of the universe. Its emptiness is the fact
> >that there is no more to it than that."
> >
> >After some discussion with Paul on his blog, about the "weirdness" of
> >causation implicit in that view. I embarked on the "Motion" chapter
> >but despite a couple of re-reads - I haven't got it yet. I'll need to
> >find time to move on and come back.
> >
> >I'm hooked though and believe it has important things to say.
> >Ian
> >
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