[MD] Is Morality innate in the cosmos?
Arlo Bensinger
ajb102 at psu.edu
Fri Feb 10 13:57:07 PST 2006
[Spiritual Adriondak wrote]
You said, "Joseph Campbell calls the "monomyth", the underlying
similarities that emerge when one examines mythos across historical and
cultural boundaries." I wonder if "monomyth" is what Ham would call "essence".
[Arlo]
I'm not sure if Ham would say it (although I doubt it), but I think its a
fairly good statement for any named "It". Included, as the snake swallowing
its own tail, "monomythism" itself. The paradox is, even if you step back
and say, "what is it behind all these cultural analogies?", your answer is
still in the form of an analogy. It has to be. The monomyth is no less an
analogy than the MOQ, or Essentialism, or Nihilism or Christianity. It may,
as Campbell attempts to, help de-harden hardened metaphors by keeping the
attention ON metaphor, but it is part of the mythos it tries to explain.
[SA]
Arlo, you might say, "Call it what you will. "Whatever" you call it, this
identifying or naming of it, is still an analogy of it." Am I correct?
[Arlo]
You are.
[SA]
If, what I say above is the kind of response you would make, then I would
like to know what "it" is.
[Arlo]
How can you "know what it is" apart from the analogies we use to talk about
"it"? (To be sure, I think there is great value in what Pirsig calls the
"preintellectual" and Eco calls the "protosemiotic", mediative-awareness.
In this manner, you may be able to "know it" apart from the analogies, but
the moment you descend into words and representations you are right back in
the analogy.) So, I'm not sure I understand your question. Any description,
or explanation, I try to give you to make sense of "it" is never "it", just
a cultural-analogous representation, a metaphor that, if powerful, may help
point you towards "it", but never anything more. Pirsig said the "it' was
"Quality". I resonate with that. He gave us a metaphor for understanding
Quality in the form of the MOQ, which I think is a good metaphor for making
sense of experience.
Whether "Quality", or "It", is an Absolute, or a No-thing, or any other
such epistomological questions, I tend to avoid, simply because I feel it
brings the metaphor down into the realm of the literal. I don't object to
that line of thought, indeed I do find some epistomological questions
necessary and fun, but its not my primary concern. To me, that likes
trying to formulate a definition of Beauty. I'd rather just watch the sun set.
Arlo
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