[MD] Quality, Beauty, Truth or truth

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Mon Feb 13 00:29:47 PST 2006


Greetings SA and all MOQers,

To me, quality is all I can know, and is therefore truth, not 
Truth.  I experience quality as a value event.  I see quality as 
bringing "things" into existence because I experience them as either 
positive or negative.  If I find such a quality event useful, my mind 
associates the experience with the memory of other similar quality 
events (or patterns of value, or static quality.)

Because <quality> is the first principle of the MOQ, I really would 
like to know how others would describe it.  Do you think my 
description is correct, incorrect or incomplete?

Marsha


At 05:12 PM 2/12/2006, you wrote:
>Can it be defined or not?  Does that make it any more
>true or not than something else?  Or any more ultimate
>or not?
>      Quality,  is it really the Truth or a truth?  I
>know Pirsig put quality or quality put Pirsig into a
>way of thinking in which because Pirsig could not
>define quality, then quality became this awesome
>"thing".  Yet, can God really be define?  What about
>Zen?  Zen cannot be defined according to Shunryu
>Suzuki a spiritual descendant of Dogen, it can only
>truly be practiced.  Who is Shunryu Suzuki?  He
>established the Zen Center in San Francisco, and Zen
>Mountain Center "...the first Zen training monastery
>outside Asia."  Doesn't the Zen Center sound familiar?
>  This is where Pirsig's son attended until he left one
>day, evening, or night and was killed.  Why bring this
>up?  Well, I am looking into how many "things" cannot
>be defined.  What type of attention should we give to
>anything that cannot be defined?  Such as I am
>thinking about an animal with two legs trying to grab
>something out of a tree.  Do you know it?  Well, of
>course its' a cougar trying to reach for a higher mark
>on the tree to scratch.
>
>SA
>
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