[MD] Quality, Beauty, Truth or truth

David M davidint at blueyonder.co.uk
Wed Feb 15 09:57:38 PST 2006


Hi SA

I think quality is a great starting point because it is so rooted
in experience, and what a good place to start, but make sure
you include the full range of experience: senses, imagination,
values, concepts, world, other people, other life, stones,
birds, tunes, awe, emotions, memories, the past, the future, etc, etc.

DM


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heather Perella" <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:12 PM
Subject: [MD] Quality, Beauty, Truth or truth


> Can it be defined or not?  Does that make it any more
> true or not than something else?  Or any more ultimate
> or not?
>     Quality,  is it really the Truth or a truth?  I
> know Pirsig put quality or quality put Pirsig into a
> way of thinking in which because Pirsig could not
> define quality, then quality became this awesome
> "thing".  Yet, can God really be define?  What about
> Zen?  Zen cannot be defined according to Shunryu
> Suzuki a spiritual descendant of Dogen, it can only
> truly be practiced.  Who is Shunryu Suzuki?  He
> established the Zen Center in San Francisco, and Zen
> Mountain Center "...the first Zen training monastery
> outside Asia."  Doesn't the Zen Center sound familiar?
> This is where Pirsig's son attended until he left one
> day, evening, or night and was killed.  Why bring this
> up?  Well, I am looking into how many "things" cannot
> be defined.  What type of attention should we give to
> anything that cannot be defined?  Such as I am
> thinking about an animal with two legs trying to grab
> something out of a tree.  Do you know it?  Well, of
> course its' a cougar trying to reach for a higher mark
> on the tree to scratch.
> 
> SA
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