[MD] The Edge 2006 Annual Question

[David M]

Scott

My own thought is that god is an answer to very legitimate
questions, feelings, problems. To date it has been a wrong answer,
and so have other answers. I think this is what Heidegger means when he
says we are waiting for a New God after the death of the old god.
How would you describe the current insanity?

DM



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Roberts" <jse885 at localnet.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:45 PM
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> David M,
>
> DM said:
> Are the feelings mankind has had in relation to idols
> appropriate in relation to something else? I think so,
> I wonder if we agree as to where they might be appropriate?
>
> Scott:
> I think not, if I understand your question. The problem with idolatry is
> that it gives one the idea that one understands God (or whatever), and 
> that
> means one stops thinking about the problem. Now there are two points to
> make. One is that what I am saying is "Not for Everyone". It is just for
> people who take an intellectual path to salvation. The second is that what 
> I
> am saying presupposes the "insanity" business. This is just another name 
> for
> what Buddhists call "avidya" (ignorance), Hundus call Maya, and Christians
> call Original Sin. That is, there is something basically wrong with the
> unreflected ways we think about things. These ways work for getting along 
> in
> the world, but they fail when applied to the problem of salvation. 
> Idolatry
> is applying these ways of thinking to God (or Emptiness, etc.). To accept 
> an
> idol is to stay within our insanity.
>
> - Scott
>
>>
>> Scott:
>> In my point of view, there is no non-negated without differentiation,
>> which
>> is what I oppose in your essentialism. There is no undivided source
>> ontologically prior to differentiation or negation, nor is 
>> differentiation
>> a
>> source. There is, that is, no source above and beyond what is, which is
>> CI,
>> which is consciousness, value, and/or semiosis (or a bunch of other
>> non-things), depending on the point one wants to make. Such a source is 
>> an
>> idol. I like to think (but could be wrong) that CI avoids being turned
>> into
>> an idol because it cannot be thought through (cannot be "understood").
>>
>> - Scott
>>
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