[MD] Is Morality innate in the cosmos?

Heather Perella spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 20 10:16:49 PST 2006


Ham,

     You said:  "In the sense that Essence is
incomprehensible, it is the same as nothingness to us.
 But if we define Essence as Nothingness (E = 0), we
make Nothingness the source of existence, which is
metaphysically impossible."

     I am saying saying E=O, but only in the sense of
how we sense Essence.  Out of or in the Nothingness we
experience (and my point of view is the void - whether
in our minds or in which spacetime exists throughout
the universe) sounds just happen to appear, thoughts
appear, trees sprout, stars are born from the
collective action of dust and elements, and wolves
howl, etc...  Yet, the finite experience that we have
as humans delineates these events out of or from the
Nothingness that seemed to be present before the
events occurred.  This Nothingness that I am able to
perceive or experience (Nothingness being the absence
of events) is only a finite experience for me.  Why? 
Because I don't know what will come into existence
from the Nothingness that is being, therefore, the
Nothingness that I can sense.  Yet, to try to know
what will happen in or out of Nothingness, before it
happens, is beyond comprehension, and is not something
I can sense, thus, this that is beyond what I can
sense (remembering I can sense Nothingness) is Essence
where All is (Essence is what I cannot sense, but can
as Nothingness).  My finite experience will not know
what is in Essence to come out of or be in Nothingness
eventually known when it does occur as an event (this
event will be anything as I mentioned, it could be a
black cherry).  Thus to put this in a linear context
it could be as this:  Essence (E) to Nothingness (N)
to Event (EV) [and in the example the EV is black
cherry).  
      
      -   Thus, E to N to EV 
      -   Yet, this IS NOT this as follows:  Black
cherry is Essence that has transformed into
Nothingness that transforms into what it is - a Black
Cherry.  
      -   What I am saying IS this as follows, which
is how we would experience any event:  We know Essence
(or All that is here) and where there was Nothing now
a Black Cherry exists.

You said:  "We are still at a loss to explain the
derivation of Nothingness.  I say it's a negation of
the source.  Can you suggest a better explanation?"

     From what I derive from what I've said above it
does fall in line with what you said is negation as
follows:  "Negating is the "carving out" or
delineation of being from Essence by nothingness." 
Yet, this kind of explanation suggests nothingness
exists on its' own outside of Essence, which nothing
can, not even Nothingness.  I would say finitude is a
carving up of Essence, but how this happens is put
into question at the end of this posting.  
     Our connection to Essence still exists and that
connection in its' final step til Essence itself, is
what we experience as Nothingness.  How does Essence
become delineated or negated?  It is not delineated or
negated.  Everything is the continuous Essence, yet, I
understand this point as follows:  Then how is it we
could experience delineation or negation or have a
finite experience postured with individuals, lines,
dogs, paint, etc... if everything is Essence
(nondistinctions).  We do have something placing our
experience into focus, concentrating our attention, if
we try, upon particulars and specific events.  We do
have a way of only seeing part of what is going on, or
we could delve into experiencing everything that is
going on - yet this latter would be a collage of
events that would only come through to us as
Nothingness or Silence.  How then could focus,
concentration, delineation, negation, and finite
experiences take place in an Ultimate Reality that is
really none of these things, because it is continuous
and has no distinctions of events?  Where does focus
come from or how could it exist in such an environment
(this environment being the Ultimate Reality we are
calling Essence)?  How can anybody concentrate upon
anything in particular with an Ultimate Reality
beating down all walls of distinction, knocking out
any particulars that could exist, because in time any
focus is gone, any particular event is gone, yet, how
does it last as long as it does in the first place?  I
don't know, I am stuck, and maybe I am coming at this
from the wrong angle, I don't know.  I am going to
have to sit upon this one for a time, for now.  Here I
am, again, in the incomprehensible, seeing nothing but
Nothingness, hearing nothing but quietness.

SA     

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