[MD] The Edge 2006 Annual Question

[Joseph Maurer]

On 20 February 2006 8:01 PM Scott asks Joe:

Scott:
What do you mean by "internal"? That is, I am aware of various seven-ordered
schemes, like the evolutionary cosmology of Rudolf Steiner, and the
developmental stages of Arthur M. Young, but then there are the 10 sefirot,
the nine psychological types of the Enneagram, etc. So while with thirds,
there is a logic behind the threeness, what sort of logic do you see behind
the seven-ness?

Hi Scott, David and all,

The truth of the threeness of a manifestation, like the L of CI for example, 
depends upon a mystical acceptance. The acceptance of threeness is an 
internal something, mystical.

IMO Quality, morality, evolution indicate order. The acceptance of 
Seven-ness is an internal something, mystical, of order. A logic of 
seven-ness is exemplified in the octave of sound. As a chorus member I know 
that it is not unusual when singing a- capella in a large group (over forty 
members) to move to a different tonic scale while keeping the intervals true 
between the sopranos, altos, tenors, and bases. In one of our performances 
the low F on the written score became a low E in tone at the end. I was 
surprised when someone from the audience complimented me on the resonance of 
the low E. The logic of the octave is a logic of the need for a shock or 
some other force entering to keep the vibration going in a straight 
development. The deviation occurs when a shock is not given especially at 
the half-tone intervals Mi-Fa, or Ti-Do. The Russian mystic George Gurdjieff 
in his book 'All and Everything' devotes a chapter, The Law of 
Heptaparaparshinokh, to the logic of a need for a law of shock, or observing 
intervals to discover the need for more input. Cosmic evolution, and the 
evolution of consciousness and morality emerge from energy expended. 
Quality!

You mentioned the Enneagram. As far as I know this was the symbol Gurdjieff 
used to give a visual representation to how a law of three interacts with a 
law of seven.

Joe

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Roberts" <jse885 at localnet.com>
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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] The Edge 2006 Annual Question


> Joe,
>
> Joe said:
> Again an interesting discussion.  In another thread "Is Morality innate in
> the Cosmos" order is discussed. IMO thirds are internal to a 
> manifestation,
> but sevens are internal to order.
>
> Scott:
> What do you mean by "internal"? That is, I am aware of various 
> seven-ordered
> schemes, like the evolutionary cosmology of Rudolf Steiner, and the
> developmental stages of Arthur M. Young, but then there are the 10 
> sefirot,
> the nine psychological types of the Enneagram, etc. So while with thirds,
> there is a logic behind the threeness, what sort of logic do you see 
> behind
> the seven-ness?
>
> - Scott
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