[MD] Is democracy intellectual?
Joseph Bromley
bharhumbug at hotmail.co.uk
Wed Feb 22 17:46:59 PST 2006
Hello all, I am new to the moq_discuss mailing list so forgive me if I do
not make "contact".
The question is this, is any form of government Intellectual, be it
democracy, monarchy, tyrany, dictatorship etc? For me its intellectual
quality comes from those in the positions of power within the government not
from the form itself. (Can anyone point out a country which is lead by a
government which has intellectual quality? Aren't most of them just out for
short term power, quick fixes and a love of the lime light?)
One of my doubts over the intellectual ranking of democracy ( stemming from
a comment platt made earlier) is the soil from which it grew. Take Britain
for example, it was the resentment of Pim and co. that set the axe a falling
and charles' head a rolling. Resentment is a biological drive. To quote
Nietzsche "resentment is too much bile in the stomach." There was no
intellectual motive to resit the king, intellect was employed in arguing
against him yes, but was not the driving force in turning it into civil war,
that was biological and social values.
As a form of government democracy is the slowest because it has to make a
show of pleasing the mob, it has to consult the mob, as such it is less
dynamic than say a dictatorship. To quote churchill (as best as I can
remember from one of his parlimentary speaches from "The Gathering Storm")
"democracy is always two years behind a tyrant."
But any good governer knows that you have to keep the mob happy or risk the
reaping the whirlwind, as such the motives remains the same regardless of
convention employed to govern.
PLato's Republic and Machiavelli's The Prince are some of the most
intellectual texts written on government and they are hardly in favour of
democracy.
It is however the age of democracy, with that I can not argue, though its
time at the top will pass away, the big wheel keeps on turning, we shall see
kings again and if they can learn from the mistakes of the past they may
reign for even longer next time round. In a world where everyone does what
suits their natural dispositions best, now that would be a huge step
forward.
About Saddam, one viscious bastard yes, but still more of a man then Blair
and Bush put together! The only way to rule in the jungle is to be the
biggest beast, Saddam was wise enough for that. We have our armed forces out
there trying to force democracy apon people who have been ruled with an iron
first for millenia. Democracy is a growth from the power, it is a tyrany to
enforce it on others. It make take generations before the people of Iraq and
Afganistan "assimilate" the values of democracy. Palistine is a different
story, they came to the smart conclussion that a peaceful democracy has more
of a chance of getting the West on side than a military state.
Worse yet we make a big song and dance when our soldiers start "absorbing"
Iraq's culture for brutality. In an ideal world violence would not exist but
this is planet earth and modern man is nowhere near growing beyond
biological desires, all his social values are becoming disfunctional. I
would be interested to see the mean number of deaths under Saddams regime so
that it can be compared to post Saddam. I wonder if the difference would be
that great, at least all the ammenities where kept in working order under
Saddam, how long did it take the muppets to get there act together out
there? Months?
A point to keep in mind when calling muslins barbarians, a cultrual
perspective often calls other cultural perspectives Barbarian. We in the
west have grown up out of christian value judgements, which basicly turned
its back on biological morality, musslims tried to intergrate social and
biological values. In a way they are more moral, they have less prejudice
towards any level.
Yours sincerely J C Bromley.
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