[MD] Is Morality innate in the cosmos?

[Heather Perella]

Ham and David and anybody else,

     Here is another long posting, but I believe, in
hope, it helps pull things together nicely, and may
lead right into what you (Ham) are sensing might be
the next necessary subtopic of discussion within this
subject "Is Morality innate in the cosmos?"


     Ham said:  "By "one long now" I assume you mean
the absolute (limitless) present, rather than the
experience of time ceasing that may occur in a
meditative exercise."

     Yes, I mean the absolute (limitless) present.

     Ham said:  "...it is difference that
differentiates the many
from the One by actualizing relations.  And the first
and fundamental
relation is Awareness vs. Otherness."

     This "difference that differentiates" is inherent
in Essence (which I think you have mentioned already
as 'Essence negating itself').  This first relation
'Awareness vs. Otherness' I see what you mean.  This
makes sense.

     Ham said:  "That design is somehow intrinsic to
the potentiality of Essence, and becomes actualized in
the Creation process in the same way that awareness
and otherness are actualized."

     Design - intrinsic to the potentiality of Essence
- yes, I see.  The Design is the blueprint of how the
process of Difference becomes Awareness vs. Otherness,
which becomes... and now we have a universe having a
Design.  This design is what I used to talk about as
'the Standard' of the universe.  I picture this
Standard as the structure (which in this case includes
function - no dichotomy, I am not getting caught up in
that mess) of the universe or the way that it is or
how other philosophers such as Daoists, Zen Buddhists,
even Christ, talked about a 'Way'.  The universe is a
certain 'Way' has a Standard way of being, which even
includes freedom.  We may manipulate this universe
into appearing any way we chose, but always there will
be this certain 'Way' or 'Standard' or 'Ultimate
Reality' or 'Design'.

     Ham said:  "The scheme for the cosmic template is
beyond our comprehension; and I can only assume that
fact to be part of the Design.  I maintain that we are
denied access to absolute knowledge in order to be
free to value this Otherness without bias.  The more
one learns about the universe, the more he realizes
that it is the actualization of a Master Plan."

     AWESOME!!!!!!  Here again, "beyond our
comprehension", we see Essence still coming through,
having its' influence, or something of Essence having
its' influence being present in all of the Parts, even
though the Parts are what, for convenience sakes
(convenient for our understanding in identifying what
I am pointing at) - finite.

     I would like to pull all of this together thus
far, which may lead right into what you are calling
'Value', which I believe will take us right into
understanding 'Is Morality innate in the cosmos?'  I
have certainly enjoyed this discussion.  Honestly I
have to admit something.  My father died this passed
summer.  Him and I used to talk about this kind of
stuff all the time.  We could talk for hours.  It's
funny how much we could talk.  My mother used to leave
the room, come back who knows how long later, and say
you two are still talking.  I miss having those deep,
long, drawn out discussions about anything.  It kept
my mind solid.  I remember when I was in the early
grades of high school and my younger brother and
sister said to him one day.  Why do we have to go to
school when we can talk to you dad?  You (dad) are
more interesting to talk with and say things that have
to do with life?  He would just say you need to go to
school so you can have the opportunity in this society
to survive in the system that exists.  Don't get lost,
but we can still talk about these things even while
you go to school.  Now he's gone and sometimes I have
this habit within me that reaches out to talk to him,
and then realize I can't.  This discussion has really
got my thoughts back into the here and now in an
exercise that is definitely good for me.  Back to the
pulling this all together with what we've got so far.

    First, Essence is making a certain Action.  This
Action is negation.  Just to make an Action means
something is moving.  For something to be moving
something else must not be moving so the moving can be
'seen' as moving.  In no particular order just a set
of relations, Action is related to Focus, Negation,
Awareness vs. Otherness, Finite, etc...  Why cannot
the Stillness be related to Finite?  By stillness I am
referring to what is contrasting Action so Action can
be 'seen' to be taking place.  I would say Action is
the 'breaking away from'.  Stillness is that which
remains the same.  Action is always Action, yet,
movement suggests change.  Here we have Difference and
thus, Action is related to Difference.  How can
Essence be Stillness (always staying the same in and
of itself, thus, being All), and also be Action
(changing, negating, having Difference occur for this
creation to be)?  I am inclined to just say Essence is
Stillness and Action with Stillness being that which
holds Essence together even under the pressures and
moving current of Action.  This Stillness is Essence
being in everything, even, in the Parts.  The
Stillness aspect of Essence is that which 'Stays' with
all Parts even as these Parts are negating into
Awareness vs. Otherness.  That's why when we look into
Awareness we will 'Still' see Essence somewhere and
when we look into Otherness we will 'Still' see
Essence somewhere.  Thus, while the Action part of
Essence moves about changing and becoming an aspect of
Essence that is breaking down all finite boundaries,
seen everywhere known as infinite, and expressed as
many things including the 'one long now', is holding
itself together so it does not break apart into Parts
to never be considered an All.  Essence is Stillness
and Action taking place at the same exact time - the
'one long now'.  This relationship, I don't have much
time left before I need to leave for work so you might
want to think about this and get back with me, this
relationship between Stillness and Action I don't know
if it comes before or after Awareness vs. Otherness. 
Yet, this kind of relationship does have a boundary
and this boundary is a demarcation and to have a
Design or a Way boundaries need to exist to have
Patterns form.  Patterns forming and we have Focus,
finite, and limited things appearing, yet, 'Still'
Essence is with these Parts holding them together as
what is known as 'All'.

   That power, influence, and ability to 'hold
everything together' as to still be considered 'Still
Here' and have not ever moved at all from what it is,
yet, to at the same time having the ability to change
and move about, that 'hold' that Essence has to
'Still' be everywhere without tearing apart into a
bunch of loose Parts, that ability 'holding everything
together' that I identify as 'Stillness' might lead
right into what you mention as 'Value'.  The Action
moving from place to place knowing it is held
together, valuing its' freedom, desiring to move and
having an attraction based on Value, yet, attracted to
move and having that value because 'it knows' of the
'Other'.  Why does 'it know' of the 'Other'?  Because
'Still' within it (it in this case being Action or
Otherness or Awareness or anything in Being) is
Essence, thus, as the Action takes place 'Stillness'
is holding 'it' together and 'it knows' what to
'Value' which is in the end, its' Greater Sense of
Self, not its' finite, self-centered, ignorant,
smaller self.

What do you think?

SA

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