[MD] Is democracy intellectual?

Joseph Bromley bharhumbug at hotmail.co.uk
Thu Feb 23 13:10:29 PST 2006


Hello TLS, sorry for the last post I should have given it a bit more 
thought. I wrote it "hot", i will try and keep my cool this time around.

>From: khaled Alkotob <khaledsa at juno.com>

>So lets start with the basic question.
>
>Why do we need a government?
>
>Water, sewer, schools, traffic laws, streets, city planning, defence,
>borders, religion, morality.

All of the above, government as I see it a SPoV, societies can not be held 
together without some form of government.
>
>Would you rather have a democratically elected person who takes bribes,
>or a self imposed leader who does not and do what is right.
>
Neither, I was envisaging more of the "superman" scenario. A race of man 
that would make "modern" man look as a chimp looks to "modern" man. A race 
as it where that operate on dynamic quality, are hyper intellectual, 
culturaly unsurpassed, biologicaly more robust, they don't get ill, have no 
need to attack their biological patterns because they have all the existing 
levels sublimated. The way I envisage a return to "monarch" is that the 
people would eventaully get themselves into such a pickle and put the world 
in such a perdicament that they would turn to those that are higher out of 
necessity. If such a supra-species existed would it not be against the 
principles of MOQ not to have such a type rule?

>As the ballot box becomes a symbolic act, as we see happening in this
>country more and more every day, I become jaded.
>
>Then you see the "good ol' boys" networking behind the seen, and when
>complaints arise we are told, they know best.
>
>Last but not least, best form of censorship is Free speech. Let every
>body talk at once.
>
To quote Nietzsche here. "In the age of suffrage universal, i.e., when 
everyone may sit in judgment oneveryone and everything, I feel impelled to 
re-establish order of rank." (Will To Power, Aphorism 854.) The instinct for 
ranking is found in many sentient life forms, predator pack animals have the 
closest form that that which is inate in man. In humans it goes beyond who 
is physicaly the strongest, or has the potential to but people dismiss it 
all together, we are all equal. If that is the case why does TLS look up to 
Pirsig, with justification.
  For me man has the instincts of a predator within him, to say that an 
instinct is wrong is to say nature and dynamic quality is wrong.
  Did man get to the top of the food chain by being good to the other 
animals or by being bad? i.e., exploiting them. I do not argue that man is 
also has the instincts of a passive animal. Each have there time and place.
  I push for what is deemed as "morally" evil because so many hold to what 
is "morally" good.
Now I am not enlightened, so putting all the quotes I have and am about to 
use are like skating on thin ice, but TLS is very fond of using quotes of 
those that are higher.
"When all the world takes the good to be good, then there in lies its harm." 
Toa Tai Ching Loa Tzu.
I take this to mean that it alters the center of gravity within man. This 
has been largely down to philosophers pushing the good, that is fine for a 
philosopher but not good for the whole of mankind, as such the pendulum 
needs nudging back to the center as it where.


>If the idiots in Iran did not put a bounty on the Satanic Verses author
>would his book have sold as many copies as it did and make him a cause
>celebre? No.

Just goes to show that no publicity is bad publicity.

>
>on a parting note, we do have King George running the country.
>
The fact that some with so little intellectual quality can become president 
of the most powerful nation the world has ever seen thows a big question 
make over the whole democratic form of government. How could such a poor 
excuse of a man become the worlds most influential head of state? What does 
that say about the American people? (A definate case of an uncultivated 
order of rank instinct.) Where are the likes of Roosevelt and Churchill, or 
is it more a case of cometh the hour cometh the man?)

Keep on pushing the boundries.

Yours sincerly, J. C.

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