[MD] Ham & swiss cheese

[beauteak4u at aol.com]

Hi Marsha,
 
           Although I find some of the arguements interesting and perhaps even informative/entertaining, I agree with you that something has changed with The MOQ over the years....I also would like to read more about the MOQ in practical terms rather than Barry Manilow's Q factor and/or who threw the first stone them or US.
 
           In another post Platt mentioned "the benefits" of MOQ. When I asked what those benefits are ( as if they might be listed or perhaps explained ) he suggested that I read Lila. I've read Lila a few times and although I sense that there are benefits of MOQ I've yet to witness them in practical terms or matters. In fact if this discussion group is an example of how it works it seems to divide rather than unite.
 
          Just last night PBS had The Best of Monty Python. One of the skits was a soccer game between the Greek philosophers against the German philosophers. The game started and all the great philosophical minds of all times walked around talking about what to do. The ball sat in the middle of the field un-noticed and untouched. Fouls were called, arguements broke out but the ball just sat there in the middle of the field ignored while the great ones pontificated.... The clock ticked on and towards then end just before time ran out one of the greeks figured out what to do. He kicked a goal, no one knew what he was up to or doing....no one tried to stop him. The game was over and new arguements broke out. If I'm not mistaken a fight between players ( sides ) even broke out. Maybe the next match could be between the Greeks ( winner of that game ) and The MOQ discussion group.
 
         Who would you put your money on?
 
Smith
 
           
 
-----Original Message-----
From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:56:41 -0500
Subject: [MD] Ham & swiss cheese



Greetings all,

I've been reading Lila's Child and I'm stunned to realize that this 
group did actually once discuss the MOQ.  The last time I read ZMM's 
Introduction of the Twenty-fifth Anniversary Edition, I was stopped 
by the sentence, "Let me also recommend www.moq.org on the Internet, 
a group that is among those few that understand it." << What's happened?>>

Ham is entitled to is Essence understanding, but I find his 
discussion incomprehensible (holy, like swiss cheese) as it relates 
to this website.  It is not directed to a better understanding of 
RMP's MOQ.  I've understood the MOQ to have a Zen 
underpinning.  Having read Nagarjuna's MKK, I accept via intuition, 
experience and now intellect the emptiness of 'conventional truth' 
and the emptiness of emptiness.  But 'conventional truth' is our 
playground, and I see the MOQ as offering a better worldview for that 
playground.

I'm not interested in Ham's Essense or Sam's Theism or Scott's 
whatever.  I would like to learn more about how the MOQ would address 
the problems confronting the world today.  Can this list get back to 
becoming a group who understand it?

  Marsha


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