[MD] Barbarian attack

Platt Holden pholden at davtv.com
Sun Feb 26 09:35:43 PST 2006


D. Herbert:

> Platt said:
> 
> Pretty much, yes. But as said, the intellectual values that form the 
> basis of Western ideals are flawed. This is Pirsig's basic criticism of 
> the prevailing "scientific" subject/object worldview.
 
> I ask:
> How are these ideals flawed?

If you read Lila, you would know that the flaw in SOM is that it has 
"no provision for morals." (Lila, 22)

> And if they are why do we, after 
> experiencing a higher level of Intellectual Values, still continue to
> hold  these "flawed" values in our societies?

You'll find the answer in the MOQ.

> Platt said:
> So you think Islamic religious terrorism is morally equivalent to  the 
> Western response?   
 
> I ask:
> Careful with the wording! Western response??? How about Islamic 
> response to the Western capitalist terrorism?

So you think 9/11 was justified by Islamic response to "Western 
capitalist terrorism," whatever that is?

> No, I do not think that
> violence should beget violence.

So  you are not if favor of killing an intruder who threatens to off 
you and your family?

> But I can  understand that a human
> instinct is the fight or flight. After being hit so  many times,
> eventually I will lash back.
 
You will not lash back to prevent someone from lashing you? You will 
not take steps to protect yourself from violence?

> D Herbert




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