[MD] Is Morality innate in the cosmos?

[Heather Perella]

Ham,

     Ham said:  "Haven't we both concluded that
Nothingness is the ground of existence as it is
experienced?  Haven't we also agreed that Essence "is
all that is", and that nothingness is "what is not"? 
Then, nothingness can never be included in Essence;
which means it must always be negated by Essence."

     No, this has been my difficultly all along.  The
only thing I notice about Nothingness is its'
prevalence to not providing a view or picture of what
this is or anything is, even existence.  I could try
to think about this all I want, but in the end those
thoughts leave and I know questions might arise, if I
want to know what this is and want to solidify
thoughts again.  To continually solidify thoughts into
a view would help me understand, thus, thoughts are
not worthless, but these thoughts at their pinnacle
seem to describe the Nothingness or Quietness that I
mention.  Wouldn't it also be a pinnacle in your
thesis, because as you mention at times existence
returns to Essence therefore to return is to pass
through nothingness.  I have a certain train of
thought in this process and where Essence would be.  I
seem to differ with you in understanding Essence is in
all existence, because of the use of 'All is Essence'.
 Yet, I really think the difficulty is in the naming. 
The identify what is beyond or with Nothingness.  Sure
Value is as you would say, but the whole defining part
of all of this leaves my tiny skull to having no
thoughts as to what I will know say, tomorrow. 
Freedom takes the roof off.  Nothingness takes the
roof off.  Pirsig's Quality takes the roof off.  We
define and that is what Pirsig calls static quality,
but then we have to redefine and that is dynamic
quality.  Nothingness and its' incomprehension and
Quality and its' incomprehension found in dynamic
quality are useful.  We use them and value is found in
creativity.  Essence tries to put a roof back on, but
Essence even defined is still in my view, a roof taken
off.  When I say roof taken off I hope you understand
what I mean.  It is something like the sky is the
limit or we could go on and on and on about this.  We
come up with some definition and then the real aspect
of all of this for me at least is when we try to use
it, it being the philosophy.  I still believe wisdom
is knowledge in action.

     Ham said:  "Now I ask you, what is a "something"
that does not exist
but that is negated by the Absolute Source?"

     Absolute Source does not negate anything outside
of itself, and if you think, because we can think or
imagine something outside of Absolute Source exists we
are wrong, because Absolute Source of your thesis is
'All that Is' so anything we might think is outside of
Absolute Source is not outside of Absolute Source it
is still Absolute Source because as your thesis states
Absolute Source or Essence is 'All that Is'.  I would
suggest or wonder what is this 'All that Is' we are
talking about and how does it fit into our life.  If
it is just a concept we are trying to mold our lives
into believing or living, or is this Essence you talk
about actually something we experience in any form or
fashion and must come up with a name for?  Yet, what
is in a name?  What is this Essence you talk about and
how by knowing about it does it orient our lives?  By
knowing about it what stability or clarity would it
bring to our lives?

SA 

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