[MD] The Edge 2006 Annual Question
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skutvik at online.no
Sat Jan 7 01:20:46 PST 2006
Mike, Ian & interested parties.
6 Jan. Michael Hamilton wrote:
> Ian,
> Phew! Light at the end of the tunnel.
> And this is what Bo's been saying. The constant striving for
> objectivity, which pervades all 4th-level activity, isn't limited to
> discovering properties of Cartesian matter. In the widest sense, the
> objective perspective is the perspective of 'true for everyone,
> everywhere, for all time'. In this wide sense of objectivity, Pirsig
> strove for a more objective view than SOM,
Thanks Mike for pointing this out. Pirsig "strove for a more
objective view" because the MOQ emerged from the SOM and
had to use its values/methods/terms. No-one would have
bothered with it if Pirsig had said that he "received" it through a
burning bush it in Montana.
This is the SOM-MOQ perspective. If we choose the inter-MOQ
one and accepts that the S/O divide became MOQ's 4th. level in
this process, we see the enormous value of this stage (as Mike
describes above) and that the MOQ - albeit no static level - builds
on the 4th, creating the Quality reality in which all thee things are
seen.
> because SOM _doesn't_ work for everyone, everywhere, for all
> time. That's why SOM is flawed.
The issue why the S/O ...MMMM is flawed is interesting. Mike
says that "it doesn't work for everyone which is true (I don't think
it works for anyone who thinks about it for a moment), but the
reason is that it is a static Q-level and all levels are flawed in the
capacity of being static. I mean if one begins to examine the
social level it dissolves into biology (Pirsig pointed to this in the
Paul letter) Biology dissolves into "inogany", no one has ever
found the dead/living dividing line, and inorganic patterns
dissolves into dynamic chaos as Quantum Mech. shows. But as
a static value, intellect's S/O works splendidly.
> The
> MOQ is objectively true, NOT because it corresponds to a reality
> outside our heads, but because it works for everyone, everywhere, for
> all time.
Amen!
Bo
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