[MD] the prime directive of the MOQ

[Scott Roberts]

Gav,

Gav said:
scott the point i was making was not about how you
awaken but what being awake entails. pirsig's work,
and many other fine intellectual/artistic works can
provoke thinking that leads to a zen awakening and
subsequent clarity of self. and of course being a zen
monk doesn't mean you don't think; it means you don't
*identify* with your thoughts. okay i think that's as
clear as it will get.

Scott: But I am arguing with you about what being awake entails. You say 
that it is being aware without thought, and I disagree -- referring to 
Merrell-Wolff as a counter-example. And what's wrong with identifying with 
one's thinking, as long as one doesn't identify with a particular thought? 
Having made that distinction (between dynamic thinking and static thoughts), 
would you agree that not only can thinking provoke awakening, but that a 
purified thinking can be awakening?

- Scott (skipping the consciousness part -- I assume that's for Ian, since I 
agree that consciousness is all-pervasive)