[MD] Is Morality innate in the cosmos?

David M davidint at blueyonder.co.uk
Tue Jan 31 13:43:27 PST 2006


Platt

Do we not need much more than a tribe to be the individuals
we are today? Did we not need the dividion of labour, doctors,
money, teachers, schools, education, entertainment, art, books,
music, roads, water pipes, mining, orchestras, etc, etc. This is
a vast social wealth that has to be maintained collectively as
only many music lovers can afford an orchestra, etc.

DM


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Platt Holden" <pholden at davtv.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Is Morality innate in the cosmos?


> Quoting David M <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk>:
>
>> Hi Platt
>>
>> Would you agree that free individuals are only possible
>> in the environment of a society? And is it not true that
>> therefore individuals will have to contribute to the upkeep
>> of their society if they are to remain free individuals?
>
> Not sure what you mean. An individual as such is only possible if there 
> are others,
> like a mother and father, and it certainly helps to be part of an extended 
> family
> like a tribe. Individuals are never free of the biological necessities 
> like food,
> shelter and clothing, but it certainly helps to be a in a society where 
> one can
> exchange one's work for the work of others. There's no free lunch. As for
> contributing to the upkeep of society, every one who works contributes, 
> whether a
> butcher, baker or candlestick maker. The biggest threat to individual 
> freedom is the
> heavy hand of government with its legal power to take away your freedom. 
> The unique
> thing about American society is that it was founded on the principle that 
> each
> individual is free to live for his own sake, not for the sake of others, 
> i.e., his
> life and the product of his work belongs to him, not his next door 
> neighbor or the
> gang down the street or across town. That idea was truly revolutionary, 
> and remains
> so to this day. That to me is what a being a "free individual" means.
>
> Platt
>
>
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