[MD] Ever redefining self

[Heather Perella]

Hello Peter,
 
> Ham said:
> Seriously, I think this effort by you and others to
> reconcile all of our
> diverging perspectives into a "philosophy of
> everything" is doomed to fail.
> 
> Peter:
> I must try to find a philosophy of everything.

     We live it.  I can't talk rocks out of my mouth,
but I can talk about them.  If you still don't know
what rocks are, well, since I can't speak them, it is
difficult for me to show everything they really are.
 
> Ham said:
> The concept of "spandrels", like the tretrallema
> (sp?), is not one of those
> insights for me.  One phrase that bothered me in
> your first paragraph was
> "in which we notice an 'I'".  We cannot help
> noticing it because we ARE it.
> 
> Peter:
> Agreed, in the sense that all those static spandrels
> (subjective, mind,
> levels 1 and 2 and objective matter levels 3 and 4)
> form the individual and
> when there is sufficient electricity in it decorates
> itself with an I.

     Yes, the 'I' has been stabbed at with definition
for thousands of years, and the levels are a means to
further define the self and people on the moq.org
define over and over again what this or that is using
the levels that categorize the self and all else.
 
> Ham said:
> Proprietary awareness isn't something we have to set
> about to look for; it's
> the foundation of all experience.  No knowledge
> becomes ours in any other
> way than as awareness.  That's my first point.
> 
> Peter said:
> OK. As I said before awareness is not an act of
> faith that you believe what
> you see to be real; awareness supports thought and
> thought projects idea of
> self.

  Peter, could faith be another way to be aware of
something, by belief that something is such and such a
way cause we believe it to be such and such a way? 
Belief, therefore, is another sensory or feeler of how
we know the world/self to be such and such a way?

Thanks,
SA

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