[MD] Platt's Individual Level

[David M]

Hi Platt

I was thinking that what we see visually is a cut-up form
of experience and is therefore a coded form of experience
and a sort of language. We re-cognise the things we differentiate
out of our total experience. And we re-cognise the quality
of all these 'images'. As Pirsig says we do not notice all
the aspects of experience that we might, we select even
the aspects of experience that we notice.

Regards
David M


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> Quoting David M <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk>:
>
>> Platt
>>
>> This makes me wonder,  to what extent is
>> quality a form of language prior to human langauge?
>> A form that is less value neutral than some aspects
>> of human language?
>
>
> Could you rephrase your question because I don't understand it. Can you 
> give
> and example of a form of language prior to human language? Do you have in
> mind animal utterances?
>
> Thanks,
> Platt
>
>> >
>> > First, I agree with your second paragraph about reason. Second,
>> > spiritual to me means what the mystics say about reality, i.e., it's
>> > beyond words. Pirsig put it this way: "They (mystics) share a common
>> > belief that the fundamental nature of reality is outside language; that
>> > language splits things up into parts while the true nature of reality
>> > is undivided." Another way to say the same thing is that "the only
>> > valid thing in art is the one thing that cannot be explained." So I
>> > can't weight it, describe it or think about it in any way. Like
>> > experience itself, spirit is just there, a value that is "immediate,
>> > intuitive, undeliberate and involuntary, leaving no room for conscious
>> > application of standards, criteria, rules or precepts."
>> >
>> > Hope this helps.
>> >
>> > Platt
>
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