[MD] Probability
pholden at davtv.com
pholden at davtv.com
Thu Jul 13 10:15:24 PDT 2006
Quoting Case <case at ispots.com>:
> [Case]
> If you mean Certain beyond a reasonable doubt, then I am certain that
> nothing is certain in any Absolute sense.
Again you contradict yourself. Nothing is certain, but you are certain of that.
Very strange.
> When you provide an example of Absolute certainty, maybe your questions
> along this line will make sense.
I did. Birth and death. Then Gene wondered if he was born.
> If you have for example solved the
> Clever Demons problem or the Brain in a Vat problem, I would love to
> hear your solutions.
Sounds like a couple of fictional problems to me. But I'm game. What are those problems?
> [Platt]
> "Conscious" is widely understood term. To say you don't know what it means
> suggests you're avoiding my question. Which is OK since you are not
> certain you
> have answer anyway.
>
> [Case]
> Consciousness is a mine field. It can mean anything from being awake to
> oneness with the Primary Source.
Try a dictionary definition: "the quality or state of being aware." Are you
certain you are conscious when you write a post to this site?
> I actually did address this in the original post of this thread: this is
> pretty much how I see it:
>
> Human beings are possessors of the most complex chunks of matter in the
> known universe. Through them we are able to store information. I like
> computer metaphors so I think of this capability as a temporal buffer.
> That is, a place were past events are represented and reconstructed. This
> is experience. This capacity allows us to randomly access events from our
> pasts and reconstruct models of the future. It is through this process
> that we transcend the instant. We explore remembered pasts and speculate
> about possible futures.
Well, taking a cue from you, I'm not certain about all that.
> [Platt]
> Why is it evil to slash and clear cut the Amazon? You seem to be certain
> that it is despite your assertions that nothing is certain.
>
> [Case]
> We have not gotten too a point where this sort of discussion would result
> in anything more than Snot Stew. How about we postpone it for a while?
Why beat around the bush? Let's get to it.
> In the mean time why don't you go check out the Game of life exercises?
> You might actually enjoy playing with it.
Since I'm not certain I would, I'll pass for now.
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