[MD] Probability

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting Gene M <boredandunstable at gmail.com>:

> I'm saying it's really unlikely it exists. Absolute Certainly is as likely
> as me not being born. A snowball's chance in hell, if you will.

That's a definition of absolute certainty--that you were born. Oh, I forgot. Since
you have no recollection of being born, you can't say for sure that you were.

> > I'm serious. Do you actually have a distinct memory of being born?
> > > If not, how can you be Absolutely Sure it happened. There is still an
> > > unreasonable doubt that it did not.

No I have no distinct memory of being born. But memory is notorious for being
in error. So I wouldn't rely on it in any case to establish proof. I'm as 
absolutely sure I was born as I'm absolutely sure I will die. Doesn't get much
more absolute than that. 

> > If you aren't absolutely certain you were born I really have nothing to
> > add.
> > I suppose you will live forwever, too.

> Or you could've answered my question. But I guess a straight answer is not
> something you're comfortable with. I answere you with a straight answer when
> you asked, will you do the same for me?

I did. Now what's your answer? Aren't you absolutely certain you were born and 
will someday die? A straight answer, please.

> So as far as you are concerned, you are a work of fiction? I think maybe
> > you've
> > been seeing too many movies.
 
> As far as I am concerned you're about as likely to get a point as the table
> my computer rests on. Can you prove to me that Reality is not The Matrix?
> Straight answer, yes or no. Can you prove that?

Depends on what you will accept as proof. Can you prove your computer rests
on a table?
 
> > I know. It's becoming more and more obvious to me you really aren't
> > conscious.
 
> I really and truly honestly believe I am, but there's always the chance I
> could be wrong. Always. You on the other never believe your wrong and can
> never be convinced of anything other than what you think. You may be
> conscious, but it seems more or less wasted on you.

Why wasted? Because I think I was born? Come now. You are no longer even 
attempting to make an argument.

> > C'mon. 15 minutes? You don't have 15 minutes to may understand what it is
> > > were talking about? Glad to have confirmation that none of this has any
> > > importance to you, and you have absolutely no intention to try and
> > > understand where we are coming from.
> > > Why even discuss this if you've proven you don't give a damn and will
> > never
> > > even Try to change your mind?

> > Good point. But since you can't be sure you are conscious and aren't sure
> > that
> > I'm conscious, I don't see much point in either of us trying to do
> > anything.
 
> Pride is an amazing motivator isn't it? Can't even take a few minutes to
> open your mind because of the slight chance it might discombobulate your
> happy little, static, world view. Your a real piece of work Platt. Like a
> dinosaur, I'd like to believe people so static had all dissapeared, but here
> you are! A living anachronism, set in your ways and unwilling to move, or
> change. Proud. Too proud to even play a game.

At last, that it should come to this -- a personal attack. Oh well, coming from
someone who isn't 100 percent convinced he was born, I understand.

--Platt




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