[MD] Probability

[ian glendinning]

Sorry Gene, but I can't let this pass ...

The "sun rising tomorrow" stuff is not just a matter of statistical
probability or faith.

There are "explanatory" models of "why" the sun will rise tomorrow (or
any day), based on scientific explanations of what a DAY IS.

It's a meta-faith, a meta-belief system. A consistent holistic (or
consilient, to use the Whewell / Wilson term) system of "faith"
(understanding) that supports the fact that it will rise tomorrow ...

Barring statistical emergent outcomes of (things we can blame on) the
Israelis' hob nail boots trampling over a mass of humanity and
geography, the sun will rise. And we know "why".

Ian

On 7/22/06, Gene M <boredandunstable at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Does probability apply in all structures?  IMO there are mystical
> >
> connections between structures, in which probability does not apply, e.g.
> > the social level, Child, Father, Mother is beyond probability and subject
> > to
> > law. Sounds like faith to me? IMO knowledge, understanding, and faith have
> > different roots. For example the statement: 'The sun will rise tomorrow
> > morning' is based in trust, not probability. Uncertainty in trust destroys
> > trust. I trust he means what he says., etc.
> >
> > Joe
> >
>
> I believe that both faith and probability can exist harmoniaously. I have
> faith that the sun will rise tomorrow, because it is of a very high order of
> probability. I trust the sun to rise, because it would be shocking if it
> didn't. But the sun does not Absolutely have to rise, someday, it might just
> not happen. And that could be okay too.
>
> Expectations cause far too many problems. The root of many evils and woes in
> our lives.
>
> -Gene
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