[MD] Distinguishing Levels (Individual level)

Arlo Bensinger ajb102 at psu.edu
Thu Jun 1 14:50:03 PDT 2006


[Platt]
There are those who have argued that an individual is not the source of 
ideas but that they emerge magically from the culture.

[Arlo]
No, just those that argue against the notion that they emerge magically 
from the individual. (See, it ALWAYS absolutely one or absolutely the other 
with you guys.)

[Platt]
That's why I say the intellectual level vs the social level is indeed a 
"dynamic vs. static issue."

[Arlo]
Really? The Law of Gravity is "Dynamic Quality"? I'd say it is a static 
intellectual pattern. And lest we confuse "intellectual quality" with 
"Dynamic Quality", recall that Pirsig never claims that only human beings 
can respond to Dynamic Quality. It was, according to Pirsig, a response to 
Dynamic Quality that led the cells to discover sex. "But what "We" is 
covering up is pure quality for the cells. The cells have gotten to their 
advanced state of evolution through all this fucking and farting and 
pissing and shitting. That's quality! Particularly the sexual functions. 
 From the cells' point of view sex is pure Dynamic Quality, the highest 
Good of all."

Not to mention that this claim, if true, runs counter to your oft-posted 
rebuttal to socialism. "From a static point of view socialism is more moral 
than capitalism. It's a higher form of evolution. It [socialism] is an 
intellectually guided society, not just a society that is guided by 
mindless traditions [capitalism]." If what you say above is true, then 
socialism (intellectual level) versus capitalism (social level) is also 
a  "dynamic vs. static issue.".

Thus, socialism=intellectual=dynamic, while capitalism=social=static. 
Certainly you don't believe this, and neither does Pirsig, so your claim 
above is ridiculous.

Dynamic Quality is outside of the static levels of intellect, social, 
biological and inorganic.

Arlo




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