[MD] Distinguishing Levels (Individual level)

[Steve Peterson]

Hi Platt,

I said:
> > Back to the quote...Pirsig is saying that one is
> > behaving intellectually even if he is defending
> social
> > values whereas in your reinterpretation you want
> to
> > say that one is behaving intellectually only if he
> is
> > defending intellectual values.

Platt said:
> What I'm trying to say is that only individuals
> "behave 
> intellectually," regardless of what values they are
> promoting or 
> defending, as this site so clearly illustrates. 
> Societies don't 
> intellectualize.

Steve:
Keep in mind that only individuals behave socially as
well. But I don't think you mean to use the word in
that way. To you this Individual is a type of
person--an ideal person, and I think it's worth
exploring this type of person from an MOQ perspective.
I think you are just muddling things to say that the
intellectual level is the same as the individual
level. I could go for talking about the Individual or
what ever you want to call him/her as a type of person
but not as a type of pattern of value. I would say the
same thing about Sam's Eudomia or whatever that was.
We are talking about a person who understands the
relationships between the static levels and with DQ
and lives accordingly. The question I think you are
actually after is: what are his values? I think Ayn
Rand had a similar project, but she didn't understand
DQ or the way intellect is dependent on the social
level.

But to return to the point, I'm glad you accept that
an individual is participating in intellectual values
when he deals with ideas regardless of what the ideas
are.

Regards,
Steve


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