[MD] I was talking to this lady

[david buchanan]

SA:

Yea, OK. Like I said, I don't know the details of that particular situation. 
But don't you think the point of my post was the importance of rights? What 
I'm saying is that little stories like that are used to undermine rights. Am 
I saying there has never been a petty person on the local water board or 
whatever it is? No. Of course not. I'm just saying that clean water 
regulations are a perfectly reasonable thing even if somebody in small town 
Pennsylvania is a big jerk about it. Yes, we can all relate to these little 
injustices. They make the blood boil and all that. Which is why they're so 
handy when we want people to forget about principles and the larger 
implications. And if it seems I took you for a conservative, its only 
because you sounded like one in telling that story. That's why Platt enjoyed 
it so much, you see.

C'mon SA. Don't you have anything to say about "rights" and the 
"government-is-the-problem" attitude that undermines them? How can 
democratic government aimed at securing the rights of its citizens be "the 
problem"? Guys like Rockefeller and JP Morgan used things like dynamite and 
kidnapping to "win" in the marketplace. Not to mention the criminal 
exploitation and pollution that followed victory. And did you know that the 
inventor of fascism perfered to call it corporatism? See what I'm getting at 
here is that "business" is no friend to democracy or human rights. Without 
laws to regulate their excesses, they can be quite evil and tyrannical. Its 
an historical fact. You certainly don't have to take my word for it.

Sorry, your story evoked more than you intended. But I'm quite convinced 
that little anecdotes, just like the one you told, are used to justify 
de-regluation.

Have you noticed how bad music radio has become since the industry was 
deregulated? Did you notice the the level of vitriol in the public discourse 
became much meaner and stupider as soon as the fairness doctrine was 
suspended? I'm trying to point out how destructive this is. I'm trying to 
point out that this is at odds with American democracy and human rights. I'm 
glad the lady has clean water and I hope she exposes the jerk as such, but 
what I really care about are the larger implications of this anti-government 
stance.

dmb

Puppies playing in the sun
Swinging hammer just for fun.

And wouldn't rather get your coffee from a place with softer water and less 
hair. I mean, ground water and hair make for some pretty bad coffee. I know 
from experience.


>From: Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>Subject: Re: [MD] I was talking to this lady
>Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 18:59:47 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hey,
>
>      dmb said:  "How do you think that ground water
>got polluted in the first place?"
>
>      Maybe I didn't mention this completely, but the
>ground water was tested by the township and passed
>with flying colors.  I live not too far from the place
>and there are a lot of woods around here.  Granted not
>too far down the road businesses are popping up left
>and right, but she is already tapped into the well
>water supply.  Using township regulations and tests
>the well water is fine, nothing wrong with it.  I have
>well water in the same township, nothing wrong with
>it, I had it tested.
>      So if the waters fine, and she had to originally,
>according to the township, have the well water tested
>every month don't you think the township will detect
>when the underground river is polluted?
>      Also, not really sure what your preconceptions
>are here, especially when you stated, "SA, Platt and
>all conservative types".  Were you including me as a
>conservative type?
>
>Thanks,
>SA
>
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