[MD] Representationalism

Matt Kundert pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com
Sat Jun 3 13:35:13 PDT 2006


DMB,

Matt said:
...This muddle occurs because you'll notice that thesis one says that humans 
invent everything.  But where did humans come from?  You only find that out 
in thesis two.  It is by slightly incautious formulations of the two theses 
that leads to a lot of fire on this topic.  My suggestion for cleaning up is 
as above in how I exposited Paul's first thesis: all knowledge is 
linguistic; the only way we know things is by talking about them....

DMB said:
I don't see it that way at all. I think that in the MOQ, all knowledge is 
derived from experience. I think this difference is subtle yet huge.

Matt:
I don't even know what fight you're picking anymore.

Is there more than a verbal difference between you saying "all knowledge is 
derived from experience" and me saying (as I later did in this thread) "not 
all linguistic activity is linguistically motivated, though some of it is" 
if 'experience' is defined as including language and non-language (as it 
most certainly does if Pirsig is said to hold the Deweyan equation of 
experience = reality)?

Probably not, but the difference you want doesn't have anything to do with 
"experience" (which I have no problem with), it has to do with the idea of 
non-linguistic knowledge.  I still don't know what that is and I still don't 
know what is wrong with my account.

Matt

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