[MD] Responding to DQ

[Platt Holden]

Hi Margaret,

If the response such as that of the amoeba to acid is automatic and 
predictable it is not a response to DQ. Pirsig describes what a 
response to DQ is like in Chapter 9 of Lila where it writes: "Dynamic 
Quality comes as a sort of surprise." One can hear a new song a hundred 
times and not experience DQ. But once in a great while, suddenly on 
hearing a song for the first time Dynamic Quality all around you shines 
through. 

Regards,
Platt
 


> Here is a question...
> 
> on this discussion group as is described in this thread and others,
> people often write about people, cells, living entities, etc. responding
> to DQ or SQ.
> 
> What I thought I got out of Lila was the idea that it's not about
> 'responding'
> to dynamic quality or static quality, but rather that 
> entities respond to a state that can be described as having quality
> which we then describe as dynamic or static.
> 
> (in this case, for the amoeba, to not encounter the acid can be
> described as having greater quality than to encounter the acid). It is a
> biological response and therefore can be 'described' as being as the
> amoeba's response for a more preferable state of being. 
> 
> In my understanding, quality doesn't become static or dynamic 
> until the event happens. We could perhaps describe that the response for
> the amoeba became dynamic at the time of the event.
> 
> In the immediacy of the response, we (or whatever
> entity we're talking about) simply respond to the quality of that
> moment. 
> 
> Sometimes it's more preferable to respond in a way that is more static,
> sometimes more dynamic...but in this example below, it makes it sound
> like we're trying to identify whether the acid itself is static or
> dynamic.  
> 
> The acid just 'exists' and the amoeba just 'exists', and when they
> encounter each other, the response will be towards a greater or lesser
> 'quality' experience, and in that moment and depending on what was the
> status quo of the environment at the time, the response then becomes
> static or dynamic -
> 
> I just can't see describing the acid itself as either SQ or DQ.
> 
> my question is, is this what you are doing in this thread? Describing
> the acid as SQ or DQ, or the event itself?
> 
> mm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: [MD] Responding to DQ
> 
> 
> > > [Platt]
> > > An amoeba moving away from acid is responding to DQ? Like saying my
> > > stepping out of the way of oncoming truck or hopping off a hot stove
> > > is responding to DQ. Surely you jest.
> > >
> > > [Arlo]
> > > So, then what is the amoeba responding to?
> >
> > Threat to its survival--a static biological response to danger.
> >
> > Platt
> >
> 
> Are you suggesting the amoeba is self-aware? Conscious of the impending
> danger to it's existence and moving to save itself? The amoeba doesn't
> understand existing, or trouble, or threat. It is simply reacting to
> Dynamic Quality using static patterns, such as move away. This is a
> Great example of DQ. Experience is always DQ, isn't it?
> 
> -Gene
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